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Sep 10, 2008 12:15 am
quote from Kryogenic
I just finished reading this article on The Gamer's Bill of Rights. For those that don't wish to click a blind link here is a copy and paste of the Gamer's Bill of Rights:
The Gamer's Bill of Rights:
1) Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.
2) Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.
3) Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.
4) Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.
5) Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will play adequately on that computer.
6) Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their consent.
7) Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.
8) Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.
9) Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.
10) Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.


This was created by some people at an indie company called Stardock. They aim to make PC game developers step up the quality of the PC gaming industry as a whole. I think that it's a very noble and idealistic goal to aspire to, but the major companies, who have been steadily flushing crappy games our way, aren't going to turn over a new leaf without some sort of major profit loss.
PC gaming has really gone down hill, and when it comes to MMORPGs it's glaringly obvious. Too many games get released that are blatantly unfinished. These companies ask for not only a box purchase, but a monthly subscription rate, and the customers end up paying to beta test an unfinished and buggy game. There are also examples outside the MMORPG genre. A big one was Vivendi releasing Tribes Vengeance as a full product. You install the game, load it up, and realize that you can't even make a Tribe (aka a Guild or Clan) in Tribes Vengeance. There was also no anti-hacking measures included. The players were promised a patch to add punkbuster and to add in the missing features of a game we paid full price for.
4 years later and not only has that patch not come, but you can still occasionally see the Tribes Vengeance boxes in stores.
All in all, the PC gaming industry's treatment of it's customers has gone from bad to worse. The good news is that the potential for change exists, but it will never happen unless we the consumers, we the gamers, unite and stop supporting these negative actions buy purchasing and paying to play unfinished, buggy games, with little to none, or poor customer support.

This post has been modified on Sep 27 , 2008 08:14:47 PM by Astrid11.
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Sep 10, 2008 1:23 pm
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Sep 10, 2008 1:52 pm
yeah some of those Rights are good but some are just a bit stupid
like the update thing
well you need the updates or the game will get too boring

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Sep 10, 2008 5:02 pm
That's cool I agree
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Sep 11, 2008 1:32 am
Its nice that the indie developers are thinking about the customer, but lets be honest here, there is no way any major gaming company will even come close to adopting that. Just take a look on these forums as an example. Have someone describe what a "finished state" game or "meaningful updates" is and you are going to get about 1,000 different replies and none of them agreeing.

Again, nice to see, but its just wishful thinking.
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Sep 12, 2008 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by Astrid11
Its nice that the indie developers are thinking about the customer, but lets be honest here, there is no way any major gaming company will even come close to adopting that. Just take a look on these forums as an example. Have someone describe what a "finished state" game or "meaningful updates" is and you are going to get about 1,000 different replies and none of them agreeing.

Again, nice to see, but its just wishful thinkin ...


I can only agree to Astrid, other than that I don't see players have a right to the other points, this is mostly wanting to tell other game companies how they should run themselves. And the whole right to demand thing is silly, you can demand whatever you want, you are not barred from doing so, I take that it means right to force companies to :fill in the blank:.
If they want to improve the quality of games lead by example.
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Sep 12, 2008 10:58 am
Well, I think we as gamers should come to expect it, not necessarily wait for the companies to change, cause let's face it. They won't unless something is done.
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Sep 12, 2008 9:14 pm
Yes. Everything on that list I agree with! Especially Right number 9. I hate doing that!
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Sep 24, 2008 12:15 am
This is a very good iniciative. Surprisingly, many gamers are against their own rights. Guess that makes them feel they are very cool and self suficient.
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Sep 25, 2008 1:19 am
Please thats not why, its because the companys want sales it was an excuse so they can look good while doing it in some form justifying what they are doing but that is far from there intentions trust me.
And we should not have to pay for what the pc community has done in the past in the first place.
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Sep 25, 2008 1:45 am
HAHAHA. The very first "right" is wrong. All sales are final for retail purchases in the United States on all copyrighted data material.

If you went and bought a PC game from OfficeMax, opened it, then tried to install it, then finally looked at the box to realize that no, it does not work on Windows 95/98/ME you cannot return the product to the store and expect to walk out with a full reimbursement.

The SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) has regulated that retailers have the right to refuse the return of open CDs/DVDs/BluRay due to the possilbity of copying and copyright infringement.

Perhaps the person that wrote this article had it begin by someone refusing to except the return on something because it was opened.....
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Sep 27, 2008 7:05 pm
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