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{Contest: Discussion Season VIII} Do online games isolate you?
Link: http://forum.mmosite.com/topics/54/200802/03/3356,1.html
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Announcement: MMOsite NewsCenter Have finished this Season's Feature.
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Now more and more MMORPGs launched Public. And a lot of them are mentioned: Bloody, Violence, Adult, etc.
It seems if a MMORPG dont have any blood, naked, or stuff in it, it wont be popular.

Some related news:

Horror MMO: Requiem Bloodymare Video Released
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008-01-10/20080110235722056,1


'Don't Buy' Violent Video Game List Released
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2007-12-16/20071216223907082,2.shtml



Now this seacon, that us talking about the Violence in game

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?

5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?

Everyone reply here in this format will get 50 Forum Points = 5Golds as prize. And someone who have made wonderful answers will been repost to our news feature by interview or stuff.

Now I will give the prize out in one or two days. Thanks for your replys and your opinions.
Read your replies here:
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This post has been modified on Jan 16 , 2008 01:14:14 AM by daimon_hunter.

Well most people enjoy games where they can Bludgeon their best friend XD. But over all I still think that their are some out their that get a lot of people without being too bloody. Take for instance IJJI.com's Drift City has a couple thousand on the weekends and their's like NO blood in it or anything but I gues car's destroying cars counts as violence....hmm...

To answer Questions:

1. No. I think the Xbox 360 (Yes I am picking a favorite) is graphic enough with games like Bioshock and Condemned: Criminal minds. And games like Jericho that can be downloaded onto your computer is violent enough.

2. I play alot and the bloodiest one is probably Hellgate: London and that's not very bloody or gory. I don't go for that stuff because it just depicts violence in a way kids should not be learning.

3. Well that's a hard one. I mean if I see someone's head getting popped off after it took me 7 hours to grind up to be able to beat him with my party of like 1040 then I'll be like "w00t!!111!11! w3 1h3 l33T sk1llz!" but if it's just happening i'll be like wtf? if it's just a random death scene or something.

4. I don't think it should be strengthened by any means.

5. Maybe have less scenes where the guy is just randomly running around and popping peoples heads open and the guts spew out onto the floor and everyones running around screaming and your just watching like "wtf mate?"

6. Nah. It's actually fun sometimes, in a non sick and demented way.

7. Hell NO! I've experienced way to much and if I was to bring that into real life say hello to the next Zodiac Killer.

8. Hell yeah. Drift City, Kwonho, Sims etc. I'll play just about anything that can keep my puny little mind interested for more then 7 seconds. (XD)

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?
Depends, if it is bloody then no, it may end up being banned in countries!
2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?
I am playing 2moons atm, it is bloody/gorey, but I find it more fun that way & realistic, which most people want these days!

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?
Not really, I've seen alot of stuff like that, people who play or see those kinda game's on a regular basis get used to it, i guess!

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?
If it was, perhaps add more limb loss or something, something that is actual realistic and works with whatever skill or move you perhaps did to finish them off!

5: If you don’t think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?
hmm.. perhaps less blood pixels or splatter! Maybe a work more on the graphical element of a game rather than physical!

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?
Of monsters? NO
Of PvP? NO
Of PK? NO (yes, if i did it accidentally!)

7: If it’s possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?
NO, not in any way, except for my paintball team lol, (The violent way, not love! lol)
8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?
Yes, I would, only if it was good though of cuorse, not just for the hell of it not being violent!

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?
I believe that sufficient graphics that get the point through is enough. Realism will require a lot of detail and variables and developers might spend more time on this than gameplay.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?
I beleive that the graphics of F2p and some P2p games depict very similar trends of violence whether it might be hitting, killing, or dying. Gaming industries spend very little time on the sounds which does lower the overall effect of violence. With the generic fighting/dying system and the lack of decent sounds, most MMORPGs lack realism.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?
I think it adds the game but it doesn't incite disgust or excitement. That should come from the reward of killing a monster whether it'd be experience or apart of a quest.

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?
Violence should be strengthened in the form of graphics as stated but shouldn't be the main factor in feeling excited or disgusted.

5: If you don’t think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?
N/A


6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?
No, it is in a virtual role playing world where one could do almost anything without penalties. Though there are limits, slaying and killing monsters or other players shouldn't make anyone feel guilty. "It is just a game"

7: If it’s possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?
Hmmm .... I would want to add a system where the player can interact more with their enviroment. For example, player interactions like relationships should be added along with a point system that would somehow reward the player. Another example would be a more open smithing system and adding features like cooking or wood cutting.


8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?
Maybe. Violence in games in this century is nearly a must to attract old and new gamers. The only exceptions are sport games or intellectual(challenge) games. The Wii is a good example of a system which has violence-free games.
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This post has been modified on Jan 17 , 2008 07:18:49 AM by Hivemind.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?

Depending on the aim of the game. I guess it should look a bit realistic but not really gory.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?

I guess there's howling but that's not much.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?

Depending on the extent of the gore, probably mroe excited XP (Yes, I'm a blood thirsty killer +_+)

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?

Parts being chopped off would be enough =P

5: If you don’t think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?

If exploding bodies is possible in the game, don't include organs ><

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?

No because I usually slaughter virtual creatures. If I killed another player (I don't pvp much) it depends how and why. (Self defense or I was meant to, no. Otherwise maybe)

7: If it’s possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?

Err, I don't think so <_<;; (I'm not going to start carrying a sword in my hand and shove it through people just because it doesn't hurt in games XD)

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?

Depends what they replace the killing with o_o (Virtual sports on the PC aren't my kind of thing unless it's husky sledding =3)

1. Yes but to an extent, like if you are able to create close range combat and clashing of swords which look real--yes that'd be sweet. Although I don't think the amount of blood and gore help, maybe if you wanted to create a dramatic feeling put blood at the final stab of a boss fight, but constant buckets of blood spilt is too much.

2. I'm playing Gunz now and I think it shows realistic movement and action, but not bloody violence. When you get shot you don't loose blood--in fact there's not even a sploch of red anywhere... you just... twitch. O.O;

3. I like show based violence, clashing of swords, dramatic shots or stabs, so heh, heh I feel excited and ingame.

4. In the style of how the violence is performed not so much the effect. For example if you show a guy shooting his gun, the strength and impact of the bullet hitting the target should look strong and there, but the details of how the victim looks isn't really necissary.

5. As I said, just cut down on the blood and gore, but keep the action at full max.

6. Depends. I disagree if you shoot a civilian ingame and you can hear (say a female) screaming bloody murder, then that's just sickening a little. But if you are slaughtering monsters, attackers--people on the offence--then I feel more ticked off at them then guilty ^^;

7. What's in the game stays in my imagination and in the game. Now of course I'll pretend to be a samurai or a gunslinger once in a while (not in public...) but nah, I try to avoid mixing reality with fantasy.

8. I'll try it out but I probably won't like it. The main reason I play, say role playing games, is because it's my dream to be that slayer in that movie, or the soldier in that TV show, a game without violence is well... well just look at hello kitty online!!! *Horrored look* Though I'm talking about online games, if you mean games in general (consoles) yea I defintely play violence-free ones such as Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Mario and other Nintendo Classics, though for online... the non-violent ones usually involves only chatting and such (Habbo Hotel, Oz, etc.)
This post has been modified on Jan 16 , 2008 06:06:36 PM by SwordSlayer.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?
I don't really care. What interests me in a game is the gameplay (which in my opininon should be competitive and skill-based), not the violence. If it's violent, then so be it, but it's not neccessary.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?
Lately i have been playing GunZ, Fiesta, Audition. None of them have realistic violence.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?
I don't really care. It's an animation on a 19" monitor. Definietly not reality.

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?
5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?
As said earlier, i don't care about virtual violence, so i don't have an opinion on this.

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?
No.

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?
No.

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?
Sure, if the game is good. (eg.: Audition)
This post has been modified on Jan 17 , 2008 12:34:16 PM by Wevy.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?
Personally, yes I do. As violence in video games is pointless if things like the blood don't look realistic. I mean, who really cares if it doesn't actually look like blood or anything gory? But from another standpoint, I would say no. As when the blood is not realistic and the gore seems fake, kids seems to also want to play the games. And I don't mean teenagers, I mean elementary school kids. Games like Manhunt 2 would be not allowed by parents of kids so young to be played, but games like Dynasty Warriors would be, even though it involves slaughtering lots of enemies.


2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?
I'm switching back and forth, but mainly I am playing non-gory games like Trickster and DOMO. But when Requiem comes out, I will play that. Same with Cabal and Dekaron perhaps, and I also play Rakion sometimes. I think Rakion isn't that bad, even though there's blood shed and intense killing moves, it's not all that realistic. Dekaron and Requiem on the other hand definitely try to make it more realistic. The blood isn't all that realistic, but it's made out to be spooky and intense, and promote killings others without a reason.


3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?
To be honest, I don't get disgusted at all. The only thing is does is make me play more cautiously. It makes me want to stay alive more then games like Ratchet and Clank, or DOMO. Because in those games dieing seems harmless, but it seems worse in scarier adult games like Resident Evil and Dekaron.


4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?
Make the blood look better, the sounds more realistic, and have better effects. What I mean by the last part is; If you're playing as a ninja in Rakion, and you walk up behind a person and slit their throat, shouldn't the sword get bloody? Shouldn't it kill them? It doesn't look real at all, it just makes you laugh at how fake it is. They should definetely strengthen the effects and graphics of the gore.


5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?
I don't think the violence in games like Dekaron needs to be weakened. It is a thriller and a gory game in some ways, but overall it's not too realistic at all. I have yet to see a MMOG that is too violent as of now, but as far as console games go I think it's fine. Because their are the ratings for them that prevent younger kids from playing them.


6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?
Not really. It's not like killing a real person. The monster or person you kill feels nothing and has no emotions, so who cares? The only time I feel guilty is killing people in MMOGs in PVP to get their items. Because they could have worked so hard and you just ambushed them and stole it all. But overall it's fun and a part of the game, so oh well! :P


7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?
Haha, no. I'm not into those adult games like Redlight center, and Dekaron in no way relates to expressing love. Unless you pretend to be the healer class which uses whips, but I'm not into that roleplay stuff. Haha. It doesn't go over into real life, but I wish real life violence would translate into games. So you could do better combos, like tripping your opponent or using pressure points. Rather then just punching and slashing mindlessly.


8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?
If it's completely violence free, no. PK and PVP are almost required for me to play a game, except in some cases like in Maplestory a couple years ago. If it's combat like in Maplestory, that's alright. But I still probably wouldn't play it without violence on other real players, or better combat against monsters and villains. Just makes the game more fun and interesting.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?

Violence are in all MMOs, but some are suitable for younger audience, while some are suited to the more mature audience. Realistic violence in games could be there in the market, but should only be for the older teenagers. Games should be created for all people to play, but I think that there should definitely be a dividing line amongst the children under 20. The 17+ adults could absorb in more violence and be mature and say "it is only a game". If you are 12 years old and become influenced by 17+ games, you may mentally and physically become more violent yourself because of such realistic graphics you are visualizing. MOST young adults take in many things and make it into reality. By allowing the young to experience realistic violence, it may tend to be trouble. My final point is that realistic violence should be there, but only if there is an "iron curtain" to separate the young and older audiences.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?

Currently, the MMOG I am playing most often is World of Warcraft. I feel that there may be some violence with a bit of blood gushes, but it is not enough to bring someone to feel it is reality. The genre and storyline are in complete fantasy, so this game can be for children at age 10, or for adults at age 40. The sound effects in the World of Warcraft are depicted in a fantasy manner. I personally don't think that this game represents violence in a realistic manner.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?

Depending on the situation, a lot of games tend to bring you to a climax, then suddenly give you a burst of either excitement or fear. Some violent scenes can be quite disturbing, especially in Mature rated games. Though, there are many other games that are fantasy/scifi like that do not give a radical violent scene. When I do play games that have very disturbing scenes such as spilling guts, or cut off heads, I try to ignore it, because I know that it is simply part of the game. Sometimes, I feel disgusted, but I can't judge a game by just a couple of scenes.

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?

From a perspective that supports strengthening of realistic violence, the detail from getting struck in combat, and striking the enemy can be emphasized in such a way that the player can become mentally weak. Some ways to do this, could possibly be to suddenly show an enemy eating a human, or such, so closely that you can see the human flesh flying off. The producer of a game can emphasize in a way that would change a casual moment in a game to one of the most exciting parts of the game. Some examples could be, darkened environments, blood stains over the monitor, and close range combats with disgusting monsters. A lot of games already have these structures built into their game, but its not the "moment" that the event occurs, but how you "set it up". Hopefully, for the mature audiences, producers of games will be able to continue extending their imaginations and give hardcore gamers what they really love.

5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?

In a perspective that violence should be weakened, I feel that changing the genre of a game tends to be quite effective. Also, the aim of many companies seems to be people in their teenage years. The gamers of today are usually around the age of 14-20, and for the companies to earn more profit, the only way is to introduce similar games, but in a different packaging. The violence could be weakened through producing these similar games that are originally offered to older teens, but presenting it in a way that it has less gore, blood, and disgusting images. The problem with this issue is that many companies do not target the younger audience due to low profits. Other than that, I rest my case.

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?

This question in my opinion is a bit faulty, but I will attempt to answer to my full knowledge. If slaughter is the point of the game, and the player knows this truth. The player should not feel guilty slaughtering. Personally, I don’t think I have played games with excessive “slaughter”, but there are bound to be some in our modern games. Unless people want to revert back to pong, tetris, or Atari games, I don’t see a need to be guilty for slaughter. The gaming world, in the 21st century is mostly about killing, or be killed. In conclusion, if guilt is found in playing a game, why play it?

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?

I draw a very fine line between what I experience in games and in my real life. I may be “ganking newbs” in games, but in real life, I tend to respect all my friends, and even strangers. From my point of view, violence is only represented in games to release frustration, or to feel like a person has “power”, and is successful. From what I recall, love wasn’t in any types of games I have played. I bet there are many games that deal with love, but I know that what happens in games will never work in real life. The way you express love in a game could be “/kiss” or “/hug”, but in real life, a person needs courage to do such things. Reality is a tough world, and one must be able to distinguish between what you “want” to do (games), and what you “can” do (real life).

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?

I love tetris. If the game is a great creation, and requires thinking, such as brain age, or brain academy; I will most likely play that game. To me, games are time passers, and if a game can excite you, can bring you joy, I say that you should go for it. A human, in natural instinct, tends to be violent. Like the saying, “Survival of the fittest,” when you play violent games, you feel superior to those that you defeat. Racing games are a favorite also, though they made some that are now somewhat violent, such as Burnout, but those are miniscule violence. All in all, I would like to conclude this by saying that each individual person, has their own standards, but you must be able to know the difference between killing someone in a game, and killing someone in real life.


~ Darkprodigy
This post has been modified on Jan 17 , 2008 11:20:24 PM by darkprodigy.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?

Yes, the violece has to be real or I won't like it.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?

Cabal online, it's really violence free if you exclude that it's about killing others but compered to everything else where you kill something, it's not violent at all.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?

If it's well made then I get exited, if it sucks then I don't want to play anymore.

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?

There should be more blood and dismembering opponents. I'd like if sometimes opponents get scared and start running away when I hack them up good and they're all bloody.

5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?

There's never enough violence.

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?

I would never.

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?

Yes, I definitely would like to but I can't.

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?

Yes, if it's good.

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?
-Not really, it might make the players more violent and give them ideas to do such in real life...

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?
- I play Holic right now, not a violent game...and...yeah...

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?
-Kind of bad...i get pictures in my head of how it would look like IRL

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?
-Dont like it to be me realistic...

5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?
-Like less bloody and making less people attempting to do such as in games in real life...

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?
-Not REALLY...depends on what the game is based on...like if its name was "Cookiland" and i had to kill a dog i wouldnt feel guilty but if its name was "Animal slayer" i might have felt a litttle guilt...

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?
-Nope :D

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?
-I have to think about that xD

1: Do you think violence in games should look more realistic?

Not at all. The most important thing about a game is providing a fun gameplay and a good challenge. And even if the gameplay is based on violence, for example in a FPS, realistic demolition of the characters body isn't necessary.

2: Which MMOG are you playing now? Do you think it depicts violence in a realistic manner, such as blood, gore, and howling of wounded monsters?

I like playing WarRock. WR only shows the opponent falling to the ground screaming. I'm absolutely satisfied with the grade of realism. Because this game shows as much violence as it needs to make the kills recognizable. It's enough when the opponent falls after getting killed. I don't need to see his body burst into pieces for realizing that my grenade hit him.

3: How do you feel when seeing violent scenes in games? Do they make you feel disgusted or more excited?

If the violence is getting too hard with realistic splatter-effects and such, I might be disgusted. I just can't get how anyone could get excited about something like that. I mean, we are playing games for the excitement about fighting other players and the fun about winning against a strong one. don't we?

4: If you think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be strengthened?

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5: If you don't think that violence in games should look more realistic, in what way do you hope the violence should be weakened?

Bodies of characters should remain in one piece and players should not kill their opponents in any sarcastic way. Execution, torture... those things don't belomg into a game. If the opponent cannot provide any harm there is no reason for violent acts.

6: Do you feel guilty of slaughter in game?

No, not really. A game is a game, I know that nobody is getting hurt. But I prefer having a reason for such acts. Bloodshed just out of boredom, no thanks.

7: If it's possible, will you bring what you experience in game into your real life, like the violence part and the way you express love?

If it's useful. But violence and such usually isn't.

8: Will you play a violence-free game even without monster kill and hunting?

If it provides a decent challenge, sure. I like for example Albatross 18. No violence, no killing, just comparing skills. Why not? Well, I have to admit that challenging competition in games in most cases is bound to violence. But as I said, there's no absolute need. If the game is fun and challenging everything goes.