Now the NA/EU aion is about to launch its cbt.
I know lots of ppl are looking forward to this game. I only wanna say something after I played Aion for more than half a year.

Its my personal opinion. And maybe the official and DH will mad at this article. :P

If the Hellgate London is the most disappointment MMO in 2008, Aion will win this prize in 2009.

Why I said this above?
I have tried both KR and CN Aion.
I have played 5 different classes: Socerer (45), Templar (35), Cleric(31), Chanter (29), Spiritmaster (25)

Here's the reasons why I said Aion sucks.

1: Wow Clone
I hate this phrase before, but this is the best word to explain what Aion is.
And this is the bad copy.

2: PVP sucks
I think some of my friends here all knows that I'm crazy on PVP. I have played many MMOs (More than 50+ I think) And this game get the most f**king worst system on PVP. There's not game play. No control. No ability. Why? lols. Even the god can do nothing if anyone can kill u without 3 seconds no matter.
What you need to do is flying in the sky and find the enemy, speel and its done.

3: No class balance
Yep. They dont need so many class. This game only need Sorcerer, Templar and Cleric. That's what we need as a team in the raid for pve.
And in pvp, lols. Sorcerer can kill any class only with a skill learned in 31 level
(lols. Under my test. When I'm 31 and it got 3500+ damage, lols. Who the hell get so much HP, expect you r a tank. To myself I only got 2000 HP with the pvp equipment)
(Some of my friends said the ranger also a "bug" in pvp. But I havent tried this class yet. But I wont say anything without test)

4: Completely Grindy
Well. That's the most grind game I have ever played. U need more than 48 hours to level from 30 to 31!(As u always keep on killing and being killed) The holyhell that the highest level is 50 (KR) and 45 (CN)

5: Boring
You can do nothing except kill mods and another players like kill mods (Dont have any difference imo). When my socerer reached 45. I found I got nothing to do at all. I have no idea why I spent so much time on this game and received nothing. So that's why I tried so many classes.

6: Bots
Seems the NCsoft CAN DO NOTHING WITH THE BOTS! U can easy to find tens and thousands of bots in google. Its ok if there are only autofarming bots, but even worse,HP/MP LOCKED? Yeah, you got it! Accelerator? Absolutely? Super damage? Oh, that's easy.
WTF!! This is a MMO? Not a single game with a cheat editor?

Here's the result in CN. It was hot at the first time Aion open beta, we need more than 2 hours in the queue to get in the game.
But now, the game is becoming dying. Lots of the server get empty. U can hardly to find a team to finish the mission.
This post has been modified on Jun 02 , 2009 08:43:10 PM by dlytion.

Well, I can hardly agree with you but yes, you make a point here, Aion bots too much, you know that's the only thing most of gamers could not tolerate. But if you consider it as a single-play game, it is just fine lol, well if so that would be a great shame to NCsoft isn't it? XD
This post has been modified on Jun 02 , 2009 08:55:02 PM by Hyuk.

Yep. That's why I made this topic. I rly wish they can put some time on the game system not only the graphic.
A shining bs still a bs

I see what you mean. But WoW started off pretty unbalanced (100% dodge rogue anyone?)

I still have my faith in Aion. This is coming from a person who was so excited about Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, and Fury )':

Umm. I think we should give the official more time to improve this game.
But the bots do rly a big problem. Bots can destroy any good mmos.
I think the one of the most important point that make the Wow can stand at the top of the MMORPG world for more than 4 years is
------------>"There's no bots in game"<-------------------------

After playing several MMO's myself I can say one thing that sort of destroys one of your comments: In the first year most content sucks for an MMO cause the developer can not fully anticipate how thousands of people will play the game. Every MMO I've played has always had unbalancing class issues and sometimes it takes a year or two to fix this. Regardless of how much endgame content there was, you will always reach a point where the game is no longer fun to you. Anyone remember WoW burning crusade and the 72 hour burn one guy did to complete all that content? That content was supposed to last 2-3 months at the least. I recall in another game where it is supposed to take 3 months to get to 75, people found a way to knock it down to less then a month. Another game it was supposed to take 6 months to finish 1 piece of armor of a set, some were getting 3 or 4 pieces done in 3 months due to a bug. Took the developers 6 months to track it down and fix it.

Some games try to do accumalative releases, others do minor releases. Some are every couple months, some are every 6~8 months or even a year apart. Patience is key most the time.

The fact you are saying there is nothing to the game is similar to any starter MMO, you reach lvl cap and then what? Nothing....not a damn thing to do but the same thing you did yesterday. The only endgame Aion even has right not is randomly spawning Boss rares and taking over forts. Both give decent prizes for this, but are equally a pain to do.

Grinding....wow, why do people always hit on this. I remember a game it took me 16~20 hours in a PARTY, not solo..hell solo would take 70+ hours, to get to the next lvl. If you got in a fun party, no sweat...get in a party with one bad apple and there was a chance the party would break in less then 2 hours. The fact people complain about grinding just means they have no patience and just want everything now now now. The MMO I talk about above, I played that for 5 years because it actually was challenging to lvl, but now the game is in it's final year and having done it all in that game I lost interest.

Your argument for PvP is somewhat asinine also. Each game I've played that has had pvp as one of the elements has always had issues. WoW's problem? Same problem as Aion if you ask me...people reach that end point, get bored, and grief kill to try and satisfy themselves. Doesn't matter rank or lvl, they just kill to kill. Sorc and Ranger do this too easily by immobilizing and then unleashing heavy dmg attacks. Do I think Sorc is overpowered in pvp? Yes...one spell that does 50~75% HP damage in one hit is annoying (Oh and by the way my assassin has 4200hp, no hp sockets at 39). Is ranger bugged? Hmm...no, maybe a little overpowered but not bugged from what I have seen. They can solo Elites rather easily once you get used to kite method. I started soloing black claw elites as early as 17 on ranger, though aside from completing quest I'm not sure it was worth the exp they gave since it was about the same I would have got killing several normal mobs within the same amount of time it took to kill one elite.

Spiritmasters, sadly they have a major issue of being totally useless in flying pvp areas. The pet can not fly and if you are trying to avoid mobs by jumping a fence....your pet wanders through them and aggro's all of them since it can't jump over fences. This is one class that seriously needs to be fixed to become useful. Either the pet needs to have it's aggro detection wiped or they need to make them true "floating" as they follow the master. Constantly recalling out pet is rather annoying, and once you take to flying and lose your pet you're pretty much dead meat cause you rarely get a chance to recall it.

1.I do agree it's a lot like Wow but not 100%.

2.The PVP is just as bad as Wow or any other game to me since the only pvp i like is in Knight Online which takes 90% skill 5% lvl and 5% items unlike other games that only take lvl and items.

3.The classes get more balanced in an update.Also i used a Dual wielding Glad as my main and i could own mages even when they got the jump on me cause i was lvling on mobs.Also i could kill Clerics and temps as long as i had my Dp full.So the balance isn't that bad also each class has it's strengths and weaknesses. A mage is good vs most but if they fight an archer they get owned 100% of the time unless the archer is a newb.

4. It's not grindy and if it took you that long from 30 to 31 then you really suck.i could do each lvl in 6 hours of play time or less until 35 or 36.Also since i played Knight online which takes 50+ hours of play time the lvling in Aion is nothing.I also played Martial heroes and in that game max lvl is 160 and the game has been up for years and there's still no one that hit max lvl.

5.Most MMO's r just killing mobs and ppl so if you find that boring then you shouldn't be playing MMO's.

6.Now yes China Aion did have a lot of bots but even if they didn't things would be just as bad cause a lot of sites offer ***********.I do hope NA/EU Aion will use a better anti-cheat program then what they have now cause it really doesn't stop any cheating at all.

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Originally Posted by TupacM


1: That's why I said wow clone not wow copy.
2: The pvp in WOW is not so bad, man. I just doubt does Aion have a "SKILL"? I dont think there's any different between a newbie or a hardcore. U can easily to find a MACRO command in internet.
3: I mean there are trying to make it better.Yep, the only class I cant 100% kill is archer. But I'm sure I can kill any class if I find them first. That's much easier than kill a mod. Coz the game dont have a camera mouse system.
And if they find me? That's not a problem. I can Hibernate/ transform into a tree/ roots/ etc.
I just login in the game and tried. Found nothing changed to my socerer character. One skill one kill. That's all.
So where's the class balance?
If they need time.. Umm. That us see. The Aion comes its closed beta in KR from 2007, May, and open beta in 2008, Nov.(Me and my friends bought some KSSN to join in). Nothing change.

4: Yep. 6 hours rly enough for us to level up. But where u leveling? In the OBS there're lots of enemies. Nearly half of our time is spent on the boring pvp.
5: But when we get the top level. U need give us something to do. Man. In wow we got raid and arena. In Warhammer we can raid or pvp. But in Aion. I dont have anything to do. The raid (they call it INSTANCE?) is sooooo easy and boring. Nothing different isnt it? That's why we had 40+ ppl in the legion (all come from our WOW guild, coz many ppl get the language problem. So that's why we made our own legion) and all of us left the game when we reached 45 lvl.
6: Yep. Agree with u. They do really need to change a better anti-cheat program.
But the bots problem is not only in CN server. Now the KR one also full of bots.
Hope they can do something in this biggest problem atm.
This post has been modified on Jun 04 , 2009 02:09:19 AM by dlytion.

Ummm. I hardly post something in the forum as bad english.
Though I still have my interested in Aion. That's a nice game to me.
But I need to say dlytion is telling a truth that Aion is dying in China. Even at this time: The Chinese world of warcraft server have been closed.
As a Chinese player, I was in a legion get 1000+ members. But now each time I login there're only 10~20 player in the guild online.
And u can easy to find the bad words about the Aion in Chinese website easily.

i don't like Wow PVP,but that's because i play Knight online and the pvp there is more about skill then lvl and items. On my Glad i could kill a Mage easy even when they would find me and use hell fire or there dp before i even hit them.on a glad i can pot and get 127 hp every 2 secs plus use a stigma for 800+ hp back and a abyss pot for 2200 hp back and i have a skill that gives 200 hp every 6 secs so that 3500 damage is nothing and once i get to the mage there Stone skin goes down in 2 hits then there life goes in 2 or 3 hits.and i do mean hits not skills.For me i can do a normal hit and a skill both at the same time so just the 1st skill from my chain sometimes the 2nd skill takes away SS then i hit with the last skill and also use snare when they try and run and after that i only have to do one more hit to kill them. I was on the China server only and i could lvl on the top layer and only have someone try and kill me once ever 10 to 15 mins and each time they would die fast ,and i could go back to lvling.Also there's spots in Morhiem that r great to lvl at.However morhiem doesn't start to get good until about 34. There are some raids in the Aion a mid/low one is at the Volcano area in Morhiem.

65...72 is me by the way i forgot to sign in

WELL WHAT YOU STATED ABOVE , JUST MAKE ME WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME
MORE Y? OF COURSE EVRYONE HAS THIR ON TASTE

1)No class balance=I LIKE THIS I DOTN LIKE BALANCE CLASS MUST BE
ROCK <PAPER< SCISSOR SO EVRYONE GETS KILLED

2)PVP SUCKS=WELL WR TH SAME IM ALWAYS A KILLER IN ANY MMO (RED NAME)
I LIKE THIS "Even the god can do nothing if anyone can kill u without 3 seconds no matter." SINCE I DONT RELY ON PARTY THIS IS GOOD FOR ME
AT LEAST I CAN KILL 1 OR 2 OF THEM BEFORE THY KILL ME IF THEY STICK TOGETHER

3: Completely Grindy I LIKE THIS I DONT WANT TO PT WITH PLAYERS
I LIKE TO KILL PEOPLE IN GRINDING AREA MORE GRIND MORE PEOPLE TO
KILL I WANT PEOPLE TO HATE ME

4:" Boring You can do nothing except kill mods and another players like kill mods "
THIS IS WHAT I WILL PLAY THIS FOR KILL ANOTHER PLAYER ITS THE BEST PART FOR ME IN ANY MMO KILLING WITHOUT GETING PENALTY


"I found I got nothing to do at all. I have no idea why" WEL U SAID U LOVE PVP
THEN GO, DESTROY ALL EXISTENCE THATS WHAT WE A TRUE PVP/PK LOVER
ARE THERE

5) BOTS: WELL I HATE THIS TO, I WILL PLAY IF THERE IS HACKS
BUT I WILL SEE IF I CAN STAND BOTS BUT I QUIT MOSTLY BECAUSE OF BOTS,MAYBE THIS IS THE MAIN REASON Y UR QUITING

This post has been modified on Jun 11 , 2009 12:29:35 AM by Annhouse.

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To 121.*.*.192. Plz be polite with all the posters. They just post with their own opinion. Ur post will be deleted. If it happen again. Ur IP address will also get banned from the forum.
And dlytion is not playing Wow now. As I know he is a Warhammer fan now.

everyone compares new launched games with wow how it is after 4 years (more or less... my sence for time isnt the best [SMILE=6] ) of updates and 2 addons at the beginning of wow they only had molten core and the onyxia cave they even had no pvp ranking system and no battlegrounds ( just miss the old open pvp at tarrens mill) so give ncsoft a chance to add and fix things i mean even age of conan changed after the crappy launch ( atleast thats what you can read on the mmo sites)

Seems buthurt TBH. If in Aion you have found most grind ever then i only can smile and leave ;)

If you're gonna complain about those little things this early in the game's life.. then you might as well not play. And has it occured to you that China Aion has like 12 region servers alone now.. not to mention atleast 10 ingame servers.. taht's like 120 server combinations people can choose from.. of course there's not gonna be people on all the time anymore -_-
If the game is dying.. why open new region servers -3-

Ugh.. you said WoW clone and then you said bad copy which means you are saying copy.. for crying out loud.. don't compare this game to any other game. You ruin it like that.. just like twilight.. or so I hear.. I'm not into twilight but from what I hear.. twilight was a good movie if you didn't read the book.. same situation.. DON'T COMPARE THIS GAME TO ANY OTHER GAME..

Also if you play a game for half a year then come back complaining about how it turns out you didn't like it why didn't you just quit after the first week and let someone else play.. =/.. just saying.. that you shoulda quit sooner.. seriously.. do you realise you're criticizing a game that's only been out for 3 months max in china.. they haven't even gotten a chance to pull off anything yet -_-
This post has been modified on Jun 05 , 2009 09:09:42 AM by AionDarkness.

I have to agree with AionDarkness. Nowadays ppl can't see a game that is "good enough" that already start to say "Ah.. another wow clone". There's no need to compare things totally different without even knowing the new game. People waited like 3 or 4 years to play Aion and the the freakin' game comes out everything that people do is complain. Instead of saying that it is a "Wow clone" why you don't spend your time lvling your Death Knights instead of making a bad image of other games?
dlytion, I'm not refering to your post specifically, Im just relating what I have seen since a long time and expressing myself about people who talk about games in a random way.

If I recall right WoW had bots in the beginning and then they became so strict as to ban some users found to be using programmable keyboards since they mimicked the functions of a bot (not needed to physically be present to play the game).

The gameguard isn't 100% - true. The game is not 100% released - true. It's as awsome as current games with 2-3 expansions already - false. That would be like judging the first release of a series of books, or a tv series, and judging it against a similar book/show that has been out for months.

Does Aion produce on the basics they promised? This is a mix right now on my end. While I enjoy the game (story, presentation, interaction), there is somethings I do not enjoy. Some of the monster AI is rudimentary which makes playing kite jobs (sorc and ranger) easy since you can typically stay out of distance of chain moves that require you to be upclose. However, the mob will still use these moves regardless of if they meet their mark or not. Alternatively there are moves that should be close range only and will still land even if you are 15m from the mob. That needs to be adjusted.

Something else that kind of seems hit or miss, rather then gradual or resist, is magical resistance. I say this because I tried to help some lower lvls kill a boss that was 15 lvls under me and their magic attacks still did upwards of 700~900 damage to me. The same amount of damage they were taking even though I had nearly 500 more magical resistance from gear and passive traits. Whether that is a bug through the antipowerlvl measures or not is beyond me since even if I wasn't with them that npc still hit that hard.

I'm willing to acknowledge Aion isn't perfect, but I still enjoy the game. All the problems I see now are problems I've seen in other MMO's that eventually got fixed as time went on. I do hope the bot issue gets fixed as I don't enjoy grinding to have some bot run around and attack everything in range including something I already engaged, and ironically they are all gladiator class......

To Kerayu I don't think resist lowers damage it just gives you a better chance of the skill not hitting you.At least that's what it seemed like to me cause when i got more resist,I would resist more of a mage/priest skills,and when you resist the skill just misses you and does nothing. Also the grin in the game isn't bad you can get max lvl with good items in less then 2 months which to me is very good since some of the games i have played take 2 months playing 5 hours a day to just get a few lvls that aren't even with in 20 lvls of being max.