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May 10, 2008 4:08 am
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STR blader(blade) and DEX blader(katana) have wat diference???

i jv knw a DEX blader hv a high atk than a STR blader
but how about STR blader??
May 10, 2008 4:40 am
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Katana's have more magic attack.





May 10, 2008 8:13 am
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so does a blade's atk high than katana???
or they are balance??
May 10, 2008 9:17 am
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Blades:
A bit higher ATK
A bit lower MATK
A bit lower ATK_rate

Kantanas (simply the opposite):
A bit lower ATK
A bit higher MATK
A bit higher ATK_rate

For red osmium weapons, the difference is just 2 points

Adding points to your STR and adding points to your DEX
wuill give you THE SAME stat boost (i.e. ATK, DEF, everything)

So the amount of your STR and DEX only affects your ability to wield your equipment

You saw a DEX Blader having higher ATK than an STR Blader...

Do you know the difference about their equipment?



For example,

a +6 weapon has 6 points higher in ATK, MATK and ATK_rate than a +5 weapon
(12 points higher for 2-handed weapons)

a +7 weapon has 12 points higher in ATK, MATK and ATK_rate than a +6 weapon
(24 points higher for 2-handed weapons)

that difference will be doubled if Mythril Weapons are compared...

Also, Those Capes
also the slot bonuses for equipment...

There are just too many variables.


By the way
I am a blader but I wield one blade and one katana

STR = 530
INT = 56
DEX = 528

So I can switch between blades and kantana ~~
(perhaps as long as I have enough money @@)
This post has been modified on May 10 , 2008 09:20:07 AM by ionescel.



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lol
u aint weird, ionescel.
i do see a lot ppl do that.
i might do that 2 if i dont find a nice redosm blade


but yea
dex is for def
str is for more attack
difference between blade and katana is
blade has 1 more attack than katana and 1 less magic than katana.
katana is for dex blader.
but str blader can use it 2. o.o




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lol
u aint weird, ionescel.
i do see a lot ppl do that.
i might do that 2 if i dont find a nice redosm blade


but yea
dex is for def
str is for more attack
difference between blade and katana is
blade has 1 more attack than katana and 1 less magic than katana.
katana is for dex blader.
but str blader can use it 2. ...


Well
I didn't say "DEX is for DEF"
nor did I say "STR is for ATK"

I mean...
For bladers,

DEX and STR gives you THE SAME amount of ATK, DEF, ATK-rate, DEF-rate and everything
Everything will be the same EXCEPT it may affect your ability in holding a blade or a kantana
but when your level is high enough, like me perhaps,
your points will be high enough so that your STR and DEX are both enough to wield a blade + a kantana like me

BUT note that the statement:
"DEX and STR gives you THE SAME amount of ATK, DEF, ATK-rate, DEF-rate and everything"
is only true for bladers!!!
That is why I now try to balance my STR and DEX to make the numbers look good
Don't even try that on Warriors or your Warrior's ATK will not be high -.-

Oh by the way
For "one blade and one kantana"
I did it on purpose
because, I believe, it is the "style" of a blader ~ XD


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well
1 day
i decided to change all my str to dex.
holy shiz, huge difference >_<"
i was skill lvling.
punching crabs
before i changed it, i was doing 25 dmg to crab
after i changed it, my dmg was 10.
then i changed it back.




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well
1 day
i decided to change all my str to dex.
holy shiz, huge difference >_<"
i was skill lvling.
punching crabs
before i changed it, i was doing 25 dmg to crab
after i changed it, my dmg was 10.
then i changed it ba ...


Well
Then it must be the version difference

In Cabal Taiwan
I switched from about 50 STR points to 50 DEX points
and all my ATK, DEF, etc.. are unchanged

Anyway
I am sorry for that



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maybe so
o.o
but anyways
go 4 str blader





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maybe so
o.o
but anyways
go 4 str blad ...


Yes I agree

STR bladers are preferable

Wearong Heavy Osmium Armors
Bladers' DEF-rate is still the highest among other classes
If not, then it may be second only to Force Archers
(But If Bladers wear martial suit sets then their DEF-rate must be the highest ~ XD)

Wearing Heavy Osmium Armor will gain you an extra 48 DEF
(12 for each piece) compared to Osmium Martial Sets

When your STR reached about 450 or 500
then, depends on your server / which version are you playing:

If, in your server, STR gives you more ATK and DEX gives you more DEF, then you will have to decide...

If, in your server, STR and DEX gives you the SAME ATK, DEF, everything,
then you can choose STR and DEX freely



I think that's it ~

Conclusion:

I am not so sure about other Cabals
but I am sure, in Cabal Taiwan, STR and DEX are, to a certain extent, the same ~
However it seems windi's version is a bit different from mine, she told me DEX gives less ATK than STR...

To me, this kind of version difference is least expected.
I thought every versions of Cabal are the same.

Anyway,
even if STR and DEX both give you the same thing
I think it doesn't harm you to boost your STR ~
haha





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i noticed martial has high def rating and armor has high def.
which one is better? def rating or def? osm martial boots +7 or osm armor boots +6? both has 100 hp

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oh
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1 question
i noticed martial has high def rating and armor has high def.
which one is better? def rating or def? osm martial boots +7 or osm armor boots +6? both has 100 hp

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Both are important...

Where to begin...

For example,
Force Shielders and Warriors have high DEF
but their DEF rate is quite low
so some people will try to boost their DEF-rate through Upgrade SKills

Starting from Mutant Forest ~
When a person with 800 DEF get hit by an average mob
the damage is 400~500
some strong mobs deep inside the forest can do you a 800+ damage!!!

So, you decide
whether you want to take a little bit less damage
or you want to increase your chance to avoid attacks

But if you are below Lv.110
then I think DEF is more important.





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But besides leveling, you must also think about war or pvp. Since you won't miss during a combo, def-rate could be really useless then.

So I felt Bladers got a big advantage in both PVP and PVE. They got high defend rate, so they don't need to worry about defend rate during PVE, so they can concentrate on defend. That's the potential I see in Bladers



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1 question
some ppl told me to delvl my lightning slash and blade scud to lvl 9 or 18 so it cools down faster
shall i do that?




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some ppl told me to delvl my lightning slash and blade scud to lvl 9 or 18 so it cools down faster
shall i do th ...


I suggest Lv.9 in PvE

but if you are a PvP maniac
and you have high AMP (from your equipment) and critical rate/DMG
you may want to max them out
then you can use Blade Scud and Lightning Slash only once in a PvP match to K.O. your opponent
otherwise I still suggest Lv.9 for both of them





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wat's the max % of crit dmg/rate and amp?




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wat's the max % of crit dmg/rate and amp?


Im Cabal Taiwan

There are no limit for Ctir.DMG and AMP

The limit for Crit.rate is about 50% or 50-something

I am not sure about them though



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ok
thx a lot for the detailed info
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