Sponsor

Quick Jump Full Board List
Forum Home DotA 2 DotA 2 new hero discussion: Phantom Lancer
 

DotA 2 new hero discussion: Phantom Lancer

May 3, 2012 2:24 am
Phantom Lancer is adding to the test server.

Here is the skill introduction:
Phantom Lancer Skill 1: Spirit Lance
Casts a magical spirit lance on a target enemy unit that damages and slows, while a Phantom is summoned to attack the unit.

Phantom Lancer Skill 2: Doppelwalk
Renders Phantom Lancer invisible, while generating a duplicate image to confuse enemies.

Phantom Lancer Skill 3: Juxtapose
Phantom Lancer's attacks have a chance to create illusions to confuse enemies.

Phantom Lancer Skill 4: Phantom Edge
Phantom Lancer hones his abilities. Juxtapose receives an increased chance, higher max illusions, and the Juxtapose illusions can now create their own illusions. Phantom Edge also increases Phantom Lancer's magic resistance.

Here is my preferred skill build:

1 - Doppelwalk
2 - Spirit Lance
3 - Spirit Lance
4 - Doppelwalk
5 - Spirit Lance
6 - Doppelwalk
7 - Spirit Lance
8 - Doppelwalk
9 - Juxtapose
10 - Phantom Edge
11 - Phantom Edge
12 - Juxtapose
13 - Juxtapose
14 - Juxtapose
15 - Stats
16 - Phantom Edge
17 to 25 - Stats

Also there are other skill builds:

If you wanna be more aggressive, you can add Sprrit Lance firstly and then add Doppelwalk. (Spirit Lance>Doppelwalk>Phantom Edge>Juxtapose).

If you wanna push and farm faster, you can choose this skill build: Juxtapose>Doppelwalk>Phantom Edge>Spirit Lance (though I dont recommend this skill build)

This is just my personal thoughts and welcome to share your preferred skill builds in the comments. Besides skill builds, you can talk other stuffs that are related to PL here.

Return to the list

Signature

Bookmark and share to your friends

May 3, 2012 11:32 am
Nice guide. I've actually wanted to try Phantom Lancer now xD *cough* FFX
So I guess when he comes out i'll fail with him xD but I fail at most of my new heroes anyways.

Signature

MMOsite Special Offer

    May 3, 2012 6:34 pm
    Some of his abilities look like they'll be incredibly annoying. I hope he won't be as overpowered as it sounds like he might be.

    Signature

    Please read and follow our forum rules before posting.
    Before creating a new topic, use the search function to check if it's already been made.

    Check out the new app for MMOsite!

    May 3, 2012 7:51 pm


    Get it from play dota xD

    May 3, 2012 8:45 pm
    Quote: Originally Posted by Aquaman47 at May 3, 2012 6:34 pm
    Some of his abilities look like they'll be incredibly annoying. I hope he won't be as overpowered as it sounds like he might be.     
    He's an old hero so he's already fairly balanced.

    Signature

    May 4, 2012 2:37 am
    Reply 4#  ~Zephyra~

    agree, a pretty balanced hero

    but I prefer this:

    1 - Spirit Lance
    2 - Doppelwalk
    3 - Spirit Lance
    4 - Juxtapose
    5 - Spirit Lance
    6 - Phantom Edge
    7 - Spirit Lance
    8 - Juxtapose
    9 - Juxtapose
    10 - Juxtapose
    11 - Phantom Edge
    12 - Doppelwalk
    13 - Doppelwalk
    14 - Doppelwalk
    15 - Stats
    16 - Phantom Edge
    17 to 25 - Stats

    high level Doppelwak is meaningless during early game coz practically it's for escaping, not chasing. Juxtapose and Phantom Edge enable you to push lane aggressively during mid game and significantly enhance your viability in lane.

    items are defenitely, +
    Radiance + heart is king!


    Byw, if you guess you cound write guides for heores better, send an email to us. Our email address is community@mmosite.com. Become a member of our writer club!

    May 4, 2012 4:27 am
    Quote: Originally Posted by ~Zephyra~ at May 3, 2012 8:45 pm
    Quote: Originally Posted by Aquaman47 at May 3, 2012 6:34 pmSome of his abilities look like they'll be incredibly annoying. I hope he won't be as overpowered as it sounds like he might be.     
    He's an old hero so he's already fairly balanced.     
    You could say the same thing about Lycan..

    But I genuinely believe that some abilities need to be tweaked because they are too strong.

    Signature

    Please read and follow our forum rules before posting.
    Before creating a new topic, use the search function to check if it's already been made.

    Check out the new app for MMOsite!

    MMOsite Special Offer

      May 4, 2012 6:19 am
      I just had a game with Lich vsing him. Dust + Lich's ulti is kind of countering him.

      May 4, 2012 11:17 am
      Quote: Originally Posted by Aquaman47 at May 4, 2012 4:27 am
      Quote: Originally Posted by ~Zephyra~ at May 3, 2012 8:45 pm
      Quote: Originally Posted by Aquaman47 at May 3, 2012 6:34 pmSome of his abilities look like they'll be incredibly annoying. I hope he won't be as overpowered as it sounds like he might be.     
      He's an old hero so he's already fairly balanced.     
      You could say the same thing about Lycan..

      But I genuinely believe that some abilities need to be tweaked because they are too strong.     
      Because those two are more or less a carry. If you have dust agsint Phantom Lancer then he can't really do anything. He doesn't have much early game DPS and that's when you're supposed to get a huge advantage.

      Signature

      May 4, 2012 6:49 pm
      [quote]Quote: Originally Posted by [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/member/info/2790195/2]PenguinClub[/url] at May 4, 2012 2:37 am
      [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/240/20120503/DotA_2_new_hero_discussion_Phantom_Lancer-4fa24eb1f1fcaab13-1.html#p4fa350df9c282c]4#[/url] [i]~Zephyra~[/i][/b] [br] [br]agree, a pretty balanced hero

      but I prefer this:

      1 - Spirit Lance
      2 - Doppelwalk
      3 - Spirit Lance
      4 - Juxtapose
      5 - Spirit Lance
      6 - Phantom Edge
      7 - Spirit Lance
      8 - Juxtapose
      9 - Juxtapose
      10 - Juxtapose
      11 - Phantom Edge
      12 - Doppelwalk
      13 - Doppelwalk
      14 - Doppelwalk
      15 - Stats
      16 - Phantom Edge
      17 to 25 - Stats

      high level Doppelwak is meaningless during early game coz practically it's for escaping, not chasing. Juxtapose and Phantom Edge enable you to push lane aggressively during mid game and significantly enhance your viability in lane.

      items are defenitely, [img]http://img5.mmo.mmo4arab.com/dota2/image/item/radiance.png[/img] + [img]http://img5.mmo.mmo4arab.com/dota2/image/item/heart_of_tarrasque.png[/img]
      Radiance + heart is king!


      Byw, if you guess you cound write guides for heores better, send an email to us. Our email address is community@mmosite.com. Become a member of our writer club! [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/240/20120503/DotA_2_new_hero_discussion_Phantom_Lancer-4fa24eb1f1fcaab13-1.html#p4fa3a33ca99bc7][STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST]images/back.gif[/STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST][/url][/quote]IMO juxtapose isn't also helpful at early, because
      1. You don't autoattack that much during early game(only for last hitting and denying). That means it lowers the chance of activating juxtapose.
      2. The illusions take 200% incoming damage, so they die easily if Phantom Lancer is still not buffed enough.

      I suggest taking +2 stat on levels 8,9, and 10 instead.

      May 5, 2012 8:06 am
      Quote: Originally Posted by PenguinClub at May 4, 2012 2:37 amReply 4#  ~Zephyra~

      agree, a pretty balanced hero

      but I prefer this:

      1 - Spirit Lance
      2 - Doppelwalk
      3 - Spirit Lance
      4 - Juxtapose
      5 - Spirit Lance
      6 - Phantom Edge
      7 - Spirit Lance
      8 - Juxtapose
      9 - Juxtapose
      10 - Juxtapose
      11 - Phantom Edge
      12 - Doppelwalk
      13 - Doppelwalk
      14 - Doppelwalk
      15 - Stats
      16 - Phantom Edge
      17 to 25 - Stats

      high level Doppelwak is meaningless during early game coz practically it's for escaping, not chasing. Juxtapose and Phantom Edge enable you to push lane aggressively during mid game and significantly enhance your viability in lane.

      items are defenitely, +
      Radiance + heart is king!


      Byw, if you guess you cound write guides for heores better, send an email to us. Our email address is community@mmosite.com. Become a member of our writer club!

      Doppelwalk's lvl 1 has a 150 manacost, while it's lvl3 has 90 manacost, and its lvl4 has 60 mana cost, you use pretty alot as it's your only escape mechanism, and any team with sanity left in his mind, will gank your lane alot, and keeping your most used skill on 150 manacost when you only have 400 or 500 mana in lanning phase won't be efficient for farming, as you will either need claritys alot, or you will have to go to fountain alot.
      So, my debate here, is that doppelwalk is best maxed first, juxtapose is totally useless before lvl11 as you don't even make use of your illusions before the lvl2 phantom edge, by that you must at least have vanguard/hood and a sacred relic and can start doing serious damage.
      Illusions don't make use of +damage, so you need stats and item status, so manta style and diffusal blade are highly recommended.
      For Survival, Heart vs BloodStone, I found that if your team has better teamfight go for the bloodstone, that will grant you a hell load of charges, which will make you eventually more tanky and have more valuable HP regen, than that a Heart can provide.
      If everything went as planned, and you had a good farming lane -best paired with a highly aggressive cm or a lich- you will buy Vanguard -if they have hard right clicking damage- or hood -if they have hard nuking capability-, radiance -core item-, mantastyle or skadi -your stats item for illusions- , diffusal blade -manaburn and stats- , Heart or Bloodstone.

      Skill build:
      1#Doppelwalk
      2#Spirit Lance
      3#Doppelwalk
      4#Stats
      5#Doppelwalk
      6#Spirit Lance
      7#Doppelwalk
      8#Juxtapose
      9#Juxtapose
      10#Phantom Edge
      11#Phantom Edge
      12#Juxtapose
      13#Juxtapose
      14#Spirit Lance
      15#Spirit Lance
      16#Phantom Edge
      17-25#Stats

      Item Build -tl;dr version-

      Starting items:
      1 Tango - 1 Salve - 1 Quelling blade - 3 branches

      Lanning items:
      1 TP - 1 Ring of Health - 1 Boots of speed

      Core items:
      1 Radiance - 1 Power Treads - 1 Vanguard/Hood - 1 Ultimate Orb

      Recommended Items:
      Heart of Tarrasque/Blood Stone - Eye of Skadi/Manta Style - 2 x Diffusal Blade

      May 5, 2012 8:40 am
      I never really liked dota but my favorite hero was the Phantom Lancer. Too bad the beta has compatibility issues with my laptop.

      MMOsite Special Offer

        May 6, 2012 2:14 am
        For items I prefer making first Vanguard then farming Radiance.Then i do Difusal and Butterfly.

        May 6, 2012 10:52 am
        Evidently no one denies in random dota matches anymore? How sad. That was the one thing that made this game good.

        May 6, 2012 11:53 am
        Quote: Originally Posted by Phucie at May 6, 2012 10:52 am
        Evidently no one denies in random dota matches anymore? How sad. That was the one thing that made this game good.     
        I dunno who you play with but everyone I play with denies and if you don't then you're giving a huge advantage to your opponents. Also why are you typing this on Phantom Lancer's thread?

        Signature

        May 19, 2017 12:20 pm
        [url]http://undeclaiming.xyz[/url] <a href="http://undeclaiming.xyz">norsk kasino</a> [url=http://undeclaiming.xyz]norsk kasino[/url]

         

        Quick Reply:DotA 2 new hero discussion: Phantom Lancer

        Smiles
        refresh
        Go Advanced »