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DN KR 5th Nov: Barbarian Boost, Rumble Mode

Nov 12, 2014 3:20 am
Reply 38#  SaitoHikari

Pretty much as you say, but it has been that way for a long time, even pre-Assassins, although Assassins made everything worse. I am sure many people recall the early 60 cap days of people looking for Force Users, Elestra and Mercenaries all the time, the last for GDN HC mainly. (Guardian Force hadn't been revamped then) The Piercers just don't have any overwhelming signature ability, Harmonize without Crusader is pretty much a Battle Howl or worse.

Later on Dancers got more popular... then the Assassin Nest era began.

Aside from Light Fury / Elestra / 70L DPS, the most requested for class at the moment is Inquisitor I think.

It is mainly the ridiculous pacing of the content that leads to most of this crap. Nearly every class pretty much plays the same way now, losing a lot of the flavour they had. And of course, the classes that were designed to excel in this situation reap the benefits..

They just don't know how to make content that keep people interested. If Dragon Nest was nothing more than a numbers game as they seem to be trying to reduce it to, I doubt many of us would actually be playing it...

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Nov 12, 2014 4:42 am
so thats now CP mode skill also reduce the cooldown of Crippling Punisher,

and according to this

(PVE)New effect - While casting Crippler Punisher, CD of Cripple Punisher is reduced [b]each time fire-elemental physical skills land hits.[/b]
* each hit reduce 0.5sec CD


my question is the calculation for reducing the CD is per hit or per skill cast

example without TA in 15 second u can use a total of 3 shift blow, 3 izuna drop, and 3 artful chaser, and the total hit when all these skill land is shift blow = 6 hit, izuna drop = 11 hit, artful chaser = 7 hit = 24 hit * 3 = 72 hit (can be higher due to left click hit in between skill cooldown time)

so the CD of cripple punisher will be reduced by 36 second (72 hit /2) or only 4,5 second ( 9 skill cast /2) ?

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    Nov 12, 2014 11:52 am


    video by 橘子 from duowan, demonstrating Fury Mode Circle Swing EX

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    Nov 13, 2014 5:18 am
    Reply 42#  chaose5

    My takeaways from the video

    1. Board damage doesn't lie
    2. Found a reason to try merc (going Destroyer though)

    Still that timing isn't really fast as far as I am aware.. (even if we exclude Typhoon's interruption)

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    Nov 13, 2014 7:20 am
    Even though he's dmg is one skill based he seems pretty fun to play, as I didnt ever even consider playing one O.o

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    Nov 15, 2014 11:09 pm
    [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20141104/DN_KR_5th_Nov_Barbarian_Boost_Rumble_Mode-5458bf63c1e920b13-1.html#p545a2d693ee143]17#[/url] [i]sieg_freedom[/i][/b] [br] [br]
    Poor boost, unsuficient and unsatisfying.

    All mercenaries have their role, on their specific buffing/debuffing and super armor ensuring abilities.
    Destroyers and Barbarians differ on their sub-role, as sub-DPS or Aggro-Tank carrier.

    -To the people that argues that barbarian isnt DPS:
    Why it have STR stack then??? Barbarian is supposed to be a consistend DPS while he fulfill the role of the mercenary, even if he is not supposed to be the a DPS.
    Lets be honest, the way it was before the boost barbarian DPS were one of the worse in the whole game.
    Moreover, if he weren't supposed to have a decent DPS in the first place, how can this be a good boost, giving something that he doesn't need?

    -To the people that argues that giving this DPS and the new fury mechanic is in fact good:
    Yes, it is good of course. Because it gives a reason to stack STR in the first place. It also justify having lower HP all the time, and even losing HP on purpose constantly.
    But, its not enough!!! Stop beying hyped by the "10x damage".
    As i said, and everyone agrees, mercenaries have a role! how this boost helps him to do his job???
    Moreover, if mercenary role were fine, why Destroyers and Barbarians experience so much class discrimination?

    -In other words: Its simple! Mercenaries need a boost on their role! Is dispel really needed aside very very VERY isolated cases??? Is damage-debuff skills, really justify their place in the party/raid (one eating HP (for barbarians) and other with long cooldown and cast time)?? Are Mercenaries really useless dead weight that have to wait their specific time to howl from times to times (or in fact ages to ages)?

    Thats why it is a really poor boost!!
    It doesn't help at all Barbarians (and Destroyers too) to do their role! Even if barbarians indeed needed the DPS boost!

    Not to mention that the DPS given out to a single and really time spaced skill isn't what i would call DPS (doesn't matter how people can take such specific ocasions and party sets to give it an uber outcome, doing such thing is beyond baloney).
    All other skills (asside whirlwind EX) continues with their very very huge cooldowns and low damage! What if fury points added % to the damage of all Barbarian skills? Then we would have even to consider using the strengthened Circle Swing and loosing board damage of all other skills by consuming the stacked fury points. This would be really more interesting looking to the DPS side only.

    Nevertheless, without revamping buffs and debuffs, barbarians will still experience huge class discrimination.
    As it is, yet another class to be thrown into oblivion.

    Nov 16, 2014 6:16 am
    [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20141104/DN_KR_5th_Nov_Barbarian_Boost_Rumble_Mode-5458bf63c1e920b13-3.html#p54684dc5def6e8]45#[/url] [i]189.*.*.6[/i][/b] [br] [br]
    who are you? LOL

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      Nov 18, 2014 7:12 am
      Reply 45#  189.*.*.6

      I don't have any particular opinion on how good the boost is, I simply present my thoughts on why the boost is sufficient to differentiate between Barbarian and Destroyer, where the former was barely contributing any DPS over the latter from what I know, as well as the numbers based on Half Sugar's interpretation of the change - people are free to draw whatever conclusions they want from it.

      Your argument however is totally off... So every class that stacks STR is DPS? So Guardian, Physician, Elestra damage increase were to make them DPS? Really?

      The reason why Mercenaries are discriminated against is because people don't value their capabilities, for a variety of reasons. Their popularity in raids comes from one reason - the inability to revive. In content that people can revive, damage reduction isn't valued as much.

      Yea, I see how much Guardian, Elestra, Acro revamps etc. helped them to do their roles.... No.

      I am not against your idea that Mercenaries deserve more, though I am not particularly for it either. (Personally I wouldn't take them outside of raids [WHEN THEORYCRAFTING, I WILL ALWAYS TAKE MY FRIENDS] because I would find no use for them) However they are hardly the only class to face discrimination, and they are still quite favoured in raid setups compared to classes who face worse.

      As it is now, a raid party who wants the damage reduction from a Mercenary AND far higher burst capability, Barbarian is now a better choice than Destroyer.

      It is far better than being entirely redundant.

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      Feb 5, 2015 4:02 pm

      how ABOUT you give destroyer and barbarian damage taker's other then tanking them which is dam pointless u need to change it up ._. Lunar knights and glad are even more powerful warrior's do not need a tank class no one really needs it a guardian is a better tank so we don't need destroyer as a tank class can you please change or revamp him to a damage take and his bomb is kinda pointless with some of his skills which are low damage takers ._.

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