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Future Update: Fire elemental skill boost, Volcano Nest Gear

Jun 9, 2014 12:00 am
Future Update: Fire elemental boost, Volcano Gear



The following info has been found in the latest DN CN client v207 and shared on duowan forum by 回不了天空的星星. The change in uistring for various fire elemental skills give some hints about the developers' intention to boost the element. Take note that these changes are NOT final and likely will be changed or removed.

Skill Changes

Ripper
Arsonist: Infuse fire aura into yourself and your party member, increase fire elemental attack by x% and resist y%. Duration z sec

Elemental Lord
Fire Bird: Additional effect - reduce target's fire resist x%, duration ysec

Adept
Magma Punch EX: Additional effect - reduce target's fire resist x%, duration ysec.

Volcano Nest Gear

These gears are likely obtained through the new lv80 nest, Volcano Nest





Reference:
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-39337512-1-1.html
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-39338251-1-1.html
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-39339503-1-1.html


[ The post was edited by chaose5 at Jun 24, 2014 8:19 am ]

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Jun 9, 2014 12:12 am
Fire bird ftw!

Kinda curious if this change is going to create a new meta? It's harder to stack fire % instead of dark % afterall

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    Jun 9, 2014 12:16 am
    Reply 1#  Revertible

    According to the update schedule, there should be a "revamp to buff/debuff" this month...


    the new meta would strongly depend on what is going to be modified in the coming update...

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    Jun 9, 2014 12:21 am
    My best guess is a massive nerf to ice stacking. By giving these fire resist debuffs to adept + Sally it makes it so they won't be hurt as bad from the nerf to ice stacking compared to elestra. But then again, only time will tell what happens =\

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    Jun 9, 2014 4:17 am
    Question is will fire resist stack?... Ice cannot, Light is selective...

    Jun 9, 2014 5:40 am
    If fire can't stack, Adept will be far superior due to having C2H5OH as well as the highest -ice% debuff and now also another -fire% debuff.

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    Jun 9, 2014 11:27 am
    Hope this allows more choices rather thn dark all the way..
    Or maybe the magical class of the new Class is fire oriented..

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      Jun 9, 2014 10:06 pm
      lolo

      Jun 9, 2014 11:00 pm
      so Ripper will got his 30% arsonist again?

      Jun 10, 2014 3:44 am
      volcano gears looks like L-grade ddn ._.

      Jun 10, 2014 6:20 am
      Ma seleana is ready [SMILE=16]

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      Jun 11, 2014 1:58 am
      ice shouldn't get nerfed O_O. Fire debuff should be buffed

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        Jul 10, 2014 8:10 pm
        I just hope Saleana will have a boost or modifications or improvements or anything that makes it usable and a good character too, since many saleana there are still hoping for future boost and improvements on this class..
        This class have a potential on being one of the Top elemental DPS Class.
        its got good DMG but the only thing is that.. its being out-shined by the other sorceress classes.
        I just hope someday Saleana will be so useful that some PT will chase after saleana or find saleana in a party. ^_^


        among all sorcs today, they are the underdog.. maybe its time for "SALEANA's COMEBACK!" haha... anyways just saying.. i have a saleana too makes my heart aches a little being discriminated by other classes. T_T

        Jul 10, 2014 8:36 pm
        [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20140609/Future_Update_Fire_elemental_skill_boost_Volcano_Nest_Gear-53955b7639c3e5613-1.html#p53981a2d0e2a75]11#[/url] [i]Illuminate007[/i][/b] [br] [br]instead of nurfing ice.. they should nurf dark since the dmg is so huge!!! other chars cant catch up with that dmg they will get OP, maj dmg is too much.. they say that maj will be an equal with smash.. but nowadays smash is no match for maj.. lols.. so that's what they call equal?? haha..

        Jul 11, 2014 4:49 am
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        I'm just curious why someone would think Saleana has the potential to be one of the top Elemental DPS. They are not weak, I know that very well, but I fail to see how they aspire to be anywhere near the top given

        1. Lack of iframes compare to mainstream DPS classes
        2. Long cast time, therefore weak effect from Time Acceleration
        3. Hellfire + Burning Hand as Damage Duplicator effect means that they cannot further benefit from Dance 2 and Dedicated Crow
        4. They are fire, not dark/light

        They are by no means weak, but how they have been designed overall does not place them as a favourable DPS class given the general nature of DN's nest/raid content.

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        Jul 12, 2014 7:45 am
        [quote]Quote: Originally Posted by [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/member/info/3709714/2]sieg_freedom[/url] at Jul 11, 2014 4:49 am
        [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20140609/Future_Update_Fire_elemental_skill_boost_Volcano_Nest_Gear-53955b7639c3e5613-1.html#p53bf55bd3ad59b]12#[/url] [i]180.*.*.62[/i][/b] [br] [br]I'm just curious why someone would think Saleana has the potential to be one of the top Elemental DPS. They are not weak, I know that very well, but I fail to see how they aspire to be anywhere near the top given

        1. Lack of iframes compare to mainstream DPS classes
        2. Long cast time, therefore weak effect from Time Acceleration
        3. Hellfire + Burning Hand as Damage Duplicator effect means that they cannot further benefit from Dance 2 and Dedicated Crow
        4. They are fire, not dark/light

        They are by no means weak, but how they have been designed overall does not place them as a favourable DPS class given the general nature of DN's nest/raid content. [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20140609/Future_Update_Fire_elemental_skill_boost_Volcano_Nest_Gear-53955b7639c3e5613-1.html#p53bfcf30d5d32a][STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST]images/back.gif[/STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST][/url][/quote]1. Lack of iframes compare to mainstream DPS classes
        2. Long cast time, therefore weak effect from Time Acceleration
        3. Hellfire + Burning Hand as Damage Duplicator effect means that they cannot further benefit from Dance 2 and Dedicated Crow
        4. They are fire, not dark/light

        To counter your post having a geared seleana in bdn.

        1. Lack of iframe = less dps?? Even then blink all you need.
        2. Where you get that we are weak in time accel ? -.- Have you seen fireball magma bal spam in this?
        3. Dance 2 and crow for only 5 % of raid time this is not determining of your dps. Burning hand is not 100% chance so it covers you when you don't proc anyway. You are determining dps by using other class skills?
        4. Correct and? -.- Arsonist from ripper+ adept + crusader ele aura+ selly fire resist is very opd!!

        Selly is very high dps, can rival raven at TIMES.

        Jul 12, 2014 7:58 am
        Reply 15#  70.*.*.179

        I too have played a geared Saleana in BDN... I know very well how much damage they can deal. All I dispute is the term "top Elemental DPS"

        1. Lesser i-frames does mean lesser DPS windows. Whether it is lesser DPS or not is always relative, but having lesser windows is definite. Have I claimed that blink isn't sufficient to survive?

        2. Have you seen Crusader and Raven during Time Acceleration?

        3. You have a geared Saleana running with...? For geared parties, Dedicated Crow and Dance 2 is not 5% of raid DPS windows, it is over half of it at least. = =" Regardless of whether Burning Hand procs, it doesn't change anything? Determining DPS potential in a raid is better served by ignoring contributions from other classes?

        4. Please explain to me how it is very overpowered, compared to what light and dark can do? Why should Crusader use Ele Aura instead of Light? I know the fire line-up thank you very much. I am unsure what people are thinking when they think the fire attack buffs and fire resist reduction are actually on par with what dark/light have access to.

        I have no doubt Saleana is very high DPS. As I said, I am just curious why someone thinks Saleana is worthy of the term "top Elemental DPS". I have never seen equal geared Raven and Saleana come close to rivalling each other on the DPS parser, in fact, there are quite a few classes (Adept, both Bringers, Crusader to name the most common) who routinely do much more than Saleana.

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          Jul 12, 2014 8:30 am
          That is a better explanation. My attack was on the fact that it was weak. It is in fact weak when compared to dark/light, but not useless.

          All we can do is see if the meta changes (likely not happening)

          Jul 12, 2014 10:47 am
          Also what do you mean they cannot benefit from dance 2? Isn't it your damage from dance 2+ hellfire and burning hand??

          Jul 12, 2014 1:55 pm
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          All skills that inflict additional damage marked as a + sign is damage duplication. Burning Hand damage is part of that, and damage duplication effects don't stack. So is Assassin's Raid, Sniper Critical Break (or w/e it's called), Majesty Gravity Controller, Screamer 65 passives, and so on.

          The game only calculates the highest effect and throws away the rest, which is usually Dance 2/Dedicate Crow. If Dance 2 is active at lower HP, Burning Hand is turned off.

          That's why Adepts are still widely far more preferred, while nobody even considers taking Saleana.

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