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T4 Force User Skill DPS Ranking for Level 60

Sep 5, 2012 2:40 am
The description on skill coefficient has been elaborated on my previous guide on force user skill (see Ref 1). The updated skill coefficient for T4 is shown below.

Note that the ranking is not universal and will inevitable change with different m.att stats or elemental %.

If you want to do a ranking comparison based on your own stats, do download the excel spreadsheet (see link below) and modify it on your own.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?rfaurt9so2bx099


1) Smasher Perspective

m.att: 15000
dark/water % : 9%

Damage / Casting Time



Damage / Cooldown


However, the above ranking is not a realistic overview of skill dps in Desert Dragon Nest, where all bosses have 50% elemental resist. Therefore i have made another set of chart based on 50% dark/ice resist on the target. Take note that, the dps of dark skills drop dramatiscally in DDN.

m.att = 20000
dark/ice att = 8%
target elemental resist = 50%

Damage/ Casting Time



Damage / Cooldown




2) Majesty Perspective

m.att: 10000
dark %: 50%
water %: 9%

Damage/ Casting Time


Damage / Cooldown




A few note which i should clarify:

* The analysis assumes a stationary big target which will receive full damage from all your skills. If the real game play, the real damage output will be lesser than the stated amount due to the movement of the target.

* The skill coefficient of Laser Cutter is taken to be 1.33, although when it knock into wall, it will deal 50% additional dmg. This is simply because this situation is just too rare and impracticable in real battle.

Skill Coefficient

This is the update version of skill coefficient:

Thanks for Dyhakys (Azure) for some data/information provided.







Reference:
1. http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20110606/Research_and_Details_on_MajestyForce_User_Skill-4ded185ed5af3ca13-1.html
2. http://dn.766.com/gx/zhzx/1712512_2.shtml


[ The post was edited by chaose5 at May 12, 2013 1:03 am ]

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Sep 5, 2012 3:51 am
WTF is that Laser cutter DPS!!!! Very Imba [SMILE=17]

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    Sep 5, 2012 4:00 am
    Yea, I was shocked by the DPS...
    How can I calculate casting time btw? I feel like doing a personal reference for Elemental Lord...

    Sep 5, 2012 4:27 am
    Quote: Originally Posted by DragonPrince1106 at Sep 5, 2012 4:00 am
    Yea, I was shocked by the DPS...
    How can I calculate casting time btw? I feel like doing a personal reference for Elemental Lord...     
    http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20110513/Some_info_abt_Eles_skills-4dcd35d019a9d2513-1.html

    Kel has done it for elemental lord long ago.

    Anyway, for casting time measurement, just record the video and analysed it with a video editing software (frame by frame analysis)

    We define casting time as: the time FROM the button press (all other skill icon become dark) TO the other skill icons start to light up (meaning you can cast the next skill)

    You can download the excel spreadsheet by Kel and key in the latest data for T4.

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    Sep 5, 2012 4:43 am
    honestly, all of those dps comparisons are only good on paper, cause in the game there's a ton of factors which affect said dps.

    like ie - some of lv60 nest bosses are moving around so fast it's pretty much impossible to get even 50% damage from triple orbs or laser cutter, or all 3 explosions of gravity ball EX, or some bosses are too small to place all of them orbs onto them, etc etc.

    sure this stuff is good to know, but people act like it's a definitive damage you're going to do, when it's really not.

    Sep 5, 2012 4:45 am
    Reply 4#  perfecti

    exactly.

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    Sep 5, 2012 4:54 am
    Reply 0#  chaose5

    Skill coefficient of slow area is now 1. But now Black hole has a coefficient of 0,87 (might be updated too).

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      Sep 5, 2012 4:56 am
      Reply 6#  Dyhakys

      Can i have the breakdown of dmg coefficient like how many hits and at what coefficient, for both?

      Thanks.

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      Sep 5, 2012 5:00 am
      Reply 7#  chaose5


      You can find it in my build thread. I update it after every patch. I will check if meteor storms coefficient is the one in my chart or if it was changed.

      Edit: Ignore the poison missile part. I unfortunately used the mdef reduction for lvl60 chars instead of lvl50 chars. Have to calculate poison missile again.


      [ The post was edited by Dyhakys at Sep 6, 2012 9:02 am ]

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      Sep 5, 2012 7:17 am
      Reply 0#  chaose5

      I checked some skills again and well poison missile wasn't my only mistake with the mdef. Also tested the coefficient of meteor storm and switch gravity.

      Lvl52 Majesty (1745 matk, 0% dark)
      Lvl40 Goblin Judge (12,07% mdmg reduction for a lvl52 char)

      Switch Gravity: Coefficient is 1, first two lifting hits are 0,25 and last hit is 0,5. Nest bosses like manticore will receive 4x lifting dmg which is also a coefficient of 1, but I think that the other bosses will receive 3x lifting + last hit (not 100% sure about this).

      Meteor Storm: Coefficient is 1,12. 13 normal hits + 1 last hit. 0,07 per normal hit and 0,21 from last hit. Doesn't matter which size it will hit 14 times.

      Summon Black Hole: Coefficient is 1. 9 hits, each hit 0,111.

      Poison Missile (3 missiles): Coefficient is 1,83. First 3 hits are 0,1, next 7 hits are 0,05 and last 47 hits are 0,025. Still don't know the % and add.Dmg of the debuff, but it ticks twice^^

      Should be all I think. If something is still missing let me know it.

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      Sep 5, 2012 8:21 am
      Reply 8#  Dyhakys



      For gravity switch, this is the weird part, not all boss will get 3 lifting + 1 heavy hits. Some bosses like you said , will get 4 lifting hits .. I am still unsure why i can get 3 lifting + 1 heavy hits on alot of bosses. The effect has been reported by others too and definitely is still there after T4.

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      Sep 5, 2012 9:32 am
      An interesting DPS Ranking, chaos :) thank you very much!! Now, I'm totally sure that my main will still be Majesty! So, for lv 60, all we need to do is wait untill other skills showed up? I mean, of course we will have other skills, right? hehe.. or are we stuck with only 1 EX skill for this September update???? oh,, I'm really excited!! :D

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        Sep 5, 2012 12:01 pm
        Quote: Originally Posted by perfecti at Sep 5, 2012 4:43 am
        honestly, all of those dps comparisons are only good on paper, cause in the game there's a ton of factors which affect said dps.

        like ie - some of lv60 nest bosses are moving around so fast it's pretty much impossible to get even 50% damage from triple orbs or laser cutter, or all 3 explosions of gravity ball EX, or some bosses are too small to place all of them orbs onto them, etc etc.

        sure this stuff is good to know, but people act like it's a definitive damage you're going to do, when it's really not.     
        There is also the small issue of 40a staff giving like 4k less matk compared to 60a...

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        Sep 5, 2012 8:27 pm
        Is twillight manticore staff still usable now? yesterday i checked my friend's bm, the sunset manticore longbow changed to manticore longbow and no longer convert anything into dark.

        Sep 6, 2012 2:17 am

        wow, if what u said is true,,, chaos might re-think about changing to Dark Smasher! haha... :p
        The end of Dark Smasher Reign..
        Converting non elemental to elemental is imba to begin with..

        Sep 6, 2012 2:26 am
        Normal Smashers are still quite powerful lol...


        [ The post was edited by DragonPrince1106 at Sep 6, 2012 3:01 am ]

        Sep 6, 2012 3:02 am
        Quote: Originally Posted by DragonPrince1106 at Sep 6, 2012 2:26 am
        Normal Smashers are still quite powerful lol...     
        That sounds impossible to me,since i have both, unless you spend more on smasher.

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          Sep 8, 2012 1:32 am
          Wow, Laser is so broken... They should rework it so it isn't as powerful at level 1 neither earns almost nothing when leveled :/

          Sep 8, 2012 4:44 am
          Quote: Originally Posted by Chocorroles at Sep 8, 2012 1:32 am
          Wow, Laser is so broken... They should rework it so it isn't as powerful at level 1 neither earns almost nothing when leveled :/     
          ?

          Laser is good as it is.

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          Sep 8, 2012 4:47 am
          Quote: Originally Posted by miaw888 at Sep 6, 2012 2:17 am

          wow, if what u said is true,,, chaos might re-think about changing to Dark Smasher! haha... :p
          The end of Dark Smasher Reign..
          Converting non elemental to elemental is imba to begin with..     
          Na, 50L+13 weapons, full FD and full crit and I can outdps any dark smasher, since 40a weapons give so little atk/matk.

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