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Situation&Mesmer Smasher Builds (Earser in Bishop)

Mar 4, 2012 12:05 pm
Situation Build:
Play as ICE/Magic/Crit



*Some skills I didnt write about them because I think they obvious.
*For better explaintion read Mesmer build. I explained the main skills in my while in mesmer its more go to the little details.
So, Why Smasher ? - Because I like it and I play what I like : She fun,pretty skills and neve bored.

Sorceress Skills:
ICE:
Glacial Spike - MAX - for ICE smash is main dps skill while.While you stack ice this skill is unbeliveable.
Bishop Head- Mirror - TA - Arcane - Spam GS
in Mesmer for freeze duration but I took it as DPS skill not as Mes to freeze.
Dark:
Poision - Lvl 1 - because I max GS and I still want this skill even if lvl 1 help me in pvp/mods

Force User Skills:
Dark:
Gravity Ball/Orbs - 1 - Both lvl 1 because if you dont have some %dark you dont see big boost between lvl1-lvl12
Laser:
Linear Ray - MAX- Read Mesmer for better explaintion.
Mirror - MAX- good debuff +30% from the dmg that the mod take. As i get it,
Its work like this if you do 5k on mod you will get more 30% (like FD) so mean you will do 6.5k. more MA you more MA you get.
Spectrum Shower - MAX - a large AOE , nice DMG (More in Mesmer)
Earser - Ulti - good skill + when you dont trust the priest to use MH u have this skill for reduce dmg - 75%.
Bishop:
Stage 1 : Purple gass - work , Push - doesnt work breake when u get to the thorns.
Stage 2 : Mush Throw - after the third cancel , Mush explosion - Work , Hit floor - Work Stone Throw - Work.
Stage 3 : Pala Hammer - Work , Lesser Beem - Work.
Stage 4 : Jump - Work , Spinning in the middle - after second hit cancel Whirlwind- Work.
Stage 5 : All skills - Work.Stage 6 : All bishop skill - Work , Stone Hand - First hit , Side Laser - 3 first hits , 3 Floor hits - only last hit doesnt work.
Time:
Time Acc- Max 1 more Sec is really help !!
TA combo - before use TA  use Mirror - TA - Arcane - GS - Cutter - spam GS utill you can use cutter and agin

Smasher Skills:
Arcane - lvl 2 - 110% add to the skill for 10.5secs every 90 secs this skill is good to use while ulti/TA - or when you can .
This skill is important skill for ICE smash because thie skill give to GS a big boost.
Arcane work like this while this buff active you get more 100% to the MAG% of the skill which mean - GS does 110% max while arcane will does 220% :D
Laser Cutter - Main dps for smahser. YOU JUST CANT DONT LOVE THIS SKILL.

Skill plate:

gonna change GB to LR
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This is my updated skill build ^^

Some people have been asking about my updated build (for a long time now), so here it is, finally. LOL, the 1st one I made for Smasher was never updated since August 2011. Thus, Situation is posting my build for me – and also because I don't frequent the forums, so probably Situation can clear a few things up for you if you have any questions.

So, why Smasher? because it's fun. That's actually enough reason for me. I have played several other classes, I realized I had too many toons when choase5 mentioned I was number 7 in highest lvl account in our server, LOL, but my Smasher is still my main.

Mesmer Build:
Play as Dark/Crit/Magic


*In the picture you can see his skill plates choose

Let's talk skills ^^
(I'm only listing skills that are vital, other skills are passives or just prerequisites for other skills. Refer to my old guide if you want details on them - OLD GUIDE : http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/ ... tml#p4e41c828954370 )

Lvl 13 Glacial Spike
So I tried max GS before and had some Water Atk % potentials, I got GS when the freeze durability improved. I think this was when Class Transform: Elemental Lord came... Anyways, Mirror > Accelerate > Arcane > GS spam is actually great if you can get enough Water Atk.
I originally got GS anyways for the freeze, so I'm keeping mine at Lvl 13 for max freeze chance and spamming GS is not for me – it's an ideal tactic but not for everyone.

Here's some calculations done by chaose5:
Glacial spike Lv13: 106%+1034, 18% chance per hit to freeze.
Since it normally deal 3 hits, so the freeze chance per cast is :
0.18^3+ 0.18^2 x 0.72 x 3 + 0.18 x 0.72^2 x 3 = 44.9% chance
Freeze will give 1.5x more damage. The freeze duration is 4sec (credits to Saurus)
At lv13, almost every 2 cast of glacial spike will almost guarantee freeze status since it's 44.9%.

Lvl 12 Gravity Ball
I maxed Gball and also have a damage plate for it. So why Gball when you're a Smasher? I like the decent cooldown and damage. Also because I tend to get a lot of Dark Atk % potentials, see I'm a poor player despite my tenure. LOL. Most of the time I just look at what fate has given me and see how I can make it work (wink, wink). Another reason is, not all mobs can be frozen, those you care to freeze can be anyways, i.e. Nest Bosses. But those Lvl 50 dailies bosses... No, you can't! So during Time Acceleration I spam Gball and Cutter when it's available.

No Microholes ?!?
NO! LOL. Overtime I just used Microholes less and less, so I decided to remove it and it works for me. Won't your Dark Atk be wasted for not getting this skill? Not entirely, Gball has an 8 second cool down. (Won't your Water Atk be wasted if you're not an Elestra? LOL. Potato, Potato) Not getting it is purely out of preference, I'm not saying this skill is bad, it just doesn't work for me. ^^

Lvl 6 Time Stop
Maxed Time Stop disables enemies for 10 seconds, As a general rule, if it's affected by slow, it can be Time Stopped. Nope,final Nest Bossed can't be Time Stopped.

Lvl 11 Slow Area
I have this maxed and have a cooldown plate for it. Why maxed? Optimum slow power! Very useful for Lray charging and all-around crowd controlling fun. At max level and with a premium cool down plate you can cast a new Slow Area as soon as the first one expires.

Lvl 3 Time Acceleration
The extra 1 second matters... shaves off a decent amount of seconds from your long cool down skills.

Time Acceleration Combos:
When mob can be frozen (like Bishop)
Mirror > Accelerate > Arcane > GS > Gball > GS > Gball > GS > Gball > Cutter (use cutter whenever available)
When mob can't be frozen
Mirror > Accelerate > Arcane > Gball > Gball > Gball > Cutter (use cutter whenever available)

Lvl 12 Linear Ray / Lvl 1 Linear Ray EX
I maxed this because I took Linear Ray EX. Ok, let's just call this Lray ^^. A lot of Smashers don't take Lray EX because of the casting time, limited hit box and planar range. I have it and have Lray maxed because I like the damage, and all those things that bother everyone about it I've had to live with and grown accustomed to in my time in CDN. LOL. I've been a Smasher and had Lray EX ever since 3rd jobs came out. Lray EX fully charged deals twice the damage of a normal Lray O.O.
Sometimes you don't even need to fully charge it in tight situations.

Let's do some calculations ^^:
Say you have an average of 6500 Magic Attack
Lvl 1 Lray damage: 218% + 286
Lvl 12 Lray damage: 243% + 3168
So you get 14,456 with a Lvl 1 Lray, for Lvl 12 Lray you get 18,963
Now with Lray EX and Lvl 12 Lray
depending on how many orbs u charge (2, 4 or 6) (6,321 per laser)
for 2 orbs you get 12,642 total damage(less than normal Lray Maxed)
for 4 orbs you get 25,284 total damage
for 6 orbs (fully charged) 37,926 total damage
Those figures are not so bad for little MA ^^
(non critical/freeze/mirror/arcane)

Lvl 1 Force Mirror
This one I don't intend to keep at Lvl 1, for now it's sufficient, but as your MA icreases, it would be wise to increase this as well. Now that there are several ways to increase MA, maxed Force Mirror has become attractive *o*.

Lvl 7 Spectrum Shower
This skill I absolutely love. Best used at a certain distance from mobs, has a wide radial range and does 2 types of damage (contact and explode damage). Also good for knocking down enemies in PVP. When you're doing crowd control it's much more effectively used in this sequence: Time Stop > Shockwave > Spectrum Shower! After Shockwave, mobs are at an optimal distance to receive full damage.

Lvl 1 Arcane
I like to call this Smasher Steroids. Lvl it up to 2 if you're going Water Smasher, it's much more useful in that scenario. It's still very useful at Lvl 1, for general 10-second-damage-boosting.

Lvl 1 Laser Cutter (Skill Ring Recommended)
Your best DPS skill outside of Time Acceleration. The most fun skill in this game, in my opinion of course. Try to get a skill ring for this for more LAZOR DAMAGE!


[ The post was edited by Situation at Apr 11, 2012 9:02 am ]

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Mar 4, 2012 9:28 pm
I know its not light I just like to call it like this XD

And mabye later i will make a video
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    Mar 4, 2012 10:19 pm
    actually why not max the whole dark tree, take the dark ulti and the light ulti to progress to smasher skill tree whithout spending any points in light tree (except laser) since most of ur dmg (from the looks of ur build) comes from triball, grav ball, spike, and shower

    taking the whole light tree for just one skills (shower) is just pretty illogical

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    Mar 5, 2012 4:01 am
    the orbs r sub dmg
    my main dps come from GB/Spectrum/GS/Cutter
    while Mirror max for buff and Arcanesmasher work as support/dps and mirror give more support and better than a little bit more dps

    go full dark is a spend of SP 10 sp for ulti/ 22sp for raise gravity

    Mar 5, 2012 4:10 am
    Reply 5#  Situation

    actually, I did attempt to use Eraser to reduce dmg long time ago...

    However, have you tried doing this : use eraser when apo is trying to rotate his laser 360 degree.. Or use Eraser when bishop is casting triple stomp, hand smacking etc?

    You will realize that the superarmor of eraser is actually very weak

    It will not hold against alot of strong SA break attack, which is very damaging at the same time....(i actually have the data extract from the client on superarmor value for all skills =.=)

    Therefore, i gave up on eraser, but Smasher apparently doesn't have this option since she has to learn it to get arcane ...

    Just that, i want to point out that, there are only very few limited situation where you can use Eraser as damage reducer, unless you are getting superarmor buff from mercenary. However, the effect of eraser is almost diminishing in this case , since merc superarmor buff + priest buff is already more than enough dmg reduction you will need (dmg reduction is capped at 80%)


    [ The post was edited by chaose5 at Mar 5, 2012 4:26 am ]

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    Mar 5, 2012 4:16 am
    ya i know Earser have a really low SA and ya its breake but in some cases its work
    as smasher its my ulti so its still can help me as Maj i dont think u need to duo
    but lets say while purple gass round 1 bish, poison mush round 2, if i dont c the jump in round 4
    and more its help but not in main protect

    added pvp/pve

    Mar 5, 2012 4:18 am
    Reply 7#  Situation

    would be great if you can list all the important situations where you can use eraser, as dmg reduction mechanism. You can make a small list or table for that... like

    Bishop (normal/hell):
    Stage 1-  Circle after smoke??
    Stage 2-  Mushroom Explosion??, RockThrow??, Mushroom throw??
    Stage 3 - Paladin's Thor Hammer??, Laser beam??
    Stage 4 - Jumping stomp after bind??, Whirlwind??

    [ erm some of the skill only appear in hellmode.. so yea.. you might nid to try it there instead of practice mode.. take your time ^_^ ]

    and so .

    it will be a big help for others who wanna use it this way

    i will sticky this if you can do this ^_^ (since no1 really research on this before and i am interested to know also )


    [ The post was edited by chaose5 at Mar 5, 2012 4:31 am ]

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      Mar 5, 2012 4:20 am
      i will try every run and tell u when to use it :D
      every boss skills
      r u think i can test in practice?

      Mar 5, 2012 4:20 am
      Reply 9#  Situation

      i think you can ^_^

      anyway you don't have to test all boss skills, only those important very dmg-ing skills will do... cuz i believe you won't cast this randomly to cut dmg from any random skills.. probably only use it for the most dmg-ing skills from the boss attack.

      Edit: actually i forgot about something, actually don't need to test for those 1 hit attack (such as jumping stomp) since it will surely reduce the dmg, EVEN if the Eraser got cancel... haha... Only test for those multi hit ones will do ^_^ .. So you just list those
      a) skills with single-hit
      b) multi-hit skills which cannot break your superarmor while channelling Eraser (nid test)


      [ The post was edited by chaose5 at Mar 5, 2012 4:34 am ]

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      Mar 5, 2012 5:08 am
      i start u can c after the eraser info

      Mar 5, 2012 7:36 pm
      max shield o.o i thought the diffrence wasn't even that big also have you tried dodging spectrum by going the dark path then getting lazer ulti meaning you just get mirror lvl 1 go to the dark tree finish to dark ulti then by using the duo ulti system you get lazer so you can get big lazer and self buff while getting the dark skills that tend to have more support roles then spectrum?

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      Mar 6, 2012 3:28 am
      Mirror lvl max(or for me lvl 6) is really good when you do high dmg but when you do low dmg its not so good.
      Lets say if your party do around 5-10k its will add only 1500-3000k per hit or  in 1 hit. while lvl 1 will add only 1k-2k
      but if the party do around 40-100k its will add 12k-30k and its alot can be per hit or in 1 hit. when lvl 1 only add 8k-20k. - 10k diff its big when its still that do more than 2-4 hits.but the best explanation is with crus/sele - somefo them do around 1m dmg with lvl 15 skill
      which mean with lvl 6 its will add 300k and lvl 1 200k - 100k diff its big

      I dont see how much the raise gravtiy / meteor shower will help so I prefer to be more dps with spectrum but if you like this, there is a good build too
      http://goo.gl/wc1UJ
      Edit:  I like spectrum in pvp because I start to get how to use it, when to use it and etc
      even in SDN or nest I start to get when is the right time to use it.
      chaos - If I go to punisher in lvl 46 dung or to the stone in lvl 40 dung its will be the same as
      bishop stage 4 hell for whir and stage 6 for stone hand?


      [ The post was edited by Situation at Mar 6, 2012 4:09 am ]

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        Mar 6, 2012 8:55 pm
        I was playing my jump smasher, and I find EX to be an OK skill to use. Its not as bad as people say, it just requires good timing.

        Mar 6, 2012 9:08 pm
        Quote: Originally Posted by Eclipzse at Mar 6, 2012 8:55 pm
        I was playing my jump smasher, and I find EX to be an OK skill to use. Its not as bad as people say, it just requires good timing.     

        wow haha...yes but the casting is super slow cd is bad as well making it a very pathetic dps skill compared to the others...

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        Mar 7, 2012 2:45 am
        ofc its a good skill never told its not but I prefer comet for pvp/break XD
        in the first build I had I used EX and Its have amazing dmg!

        Mar 7, 2012 4:34 am
        Quote: Originally Posted by chris_apple92 at Mar 6, 2012 9:08 pm
        Quote: Originally Posted by Eclipzse at Mar 6, 2012 8:55 pmI was playing my jump smasher, and I find EX to be an OK skill to use. Its not as bad as people say, it just requires good timing.     

        wow haha...yes but the casting is super slow cd is bad as well making it a very pathetic dps skill compared to the others...     
        Well since my smasher is under geared with no dark attack at all, I can't really say the the damage of that skill if the smasher is fully geared. But for now in terms of damage/cd it comes after Micro holes, laser cutter and gravity ball. I mean even with the shyt gears I have it can deal over 12k, no crits (while Gravity ball MAX only does around 12k if crit). In terms of flexibility... its worse than siege stance lol. It's SA break and SA are horrible so its very difficult for me to use it, nevertheless it's still a DPS skill (to me anyways). Also regarding Arcane + max glacial spike, omg its so awesome. It does massive damage to things that can freeze. @.@

        Apr 3, 2012 12:54 am
        No one contends that it can output some decent damage but compared to the time you use to charge it, it loses tremendously in how much it can output over time.
        If you observe a single hit it's fine but over time it is lacking.

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          Apr 3, 2012 10:51 pm
          Reply 18#  68.*.*.103


          There is a CD for every skill... when GBALL, Holes and Laser Cutter is on CD the only good damaging skill left is EX and Spectrum shower... Spectrum shower obviously deals crappier damage than EX and requires all that posing BS, so EX is the only way thing to meet up with the damage... I'm slightly better geared right now with 6k matk and 10k crit and 8% dark (no money to buy dark accessories D:), EX deals around 9k per hit (full crit+plate+max) so around 54k, spectrum deals 13k*3+3k so around (full crit+plate+max) 42k.... And maxing gball is not worth it at ALL... Lvl 1 gball = 15k crit, max gball = 20k crit thats around the same as 0charge EX... TBH the only time you can use EX is when the monster is TS or when the aggro is on your party members, but then again that applies to most of the skills FU's have -_-. Also you don't have to fully charge EX, even in stage 1,2 it does OK damage...


          [ The post was edited by Eclipzse at Apr 3, 2012 11:32 pm ]

          Apr 4, 2012 1:39 am
          I do with EX around 14-18k per hit = 84-108k dmg for smasher is very very nice and I have nab MA
          as in the new build I dont have alot of skill which mean that I can u the EX to deal more dps while the other in CD
          I use it when I want, dont scare and break or something (dont happen to me alot XD).

          you cant really know if you like the EX until you use it :D

          Apr 9, 2012 11:18 am
          sir what accesories and pots are you using right now?

           

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