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The Secret of Artillery's Magical Breeze

Feb 15, 2012 10:59 pm
Magical Breeze of Artillery (LV45 buff skill) is one the most complicated buff in dragon nest, in terms of damage calculation mechanics.

For those who have no idea what is it at all, here is the skill description:

Magical Breeze lv1
Increase your magical attack, and convert all damage to magical damage.
Duration 10sec.
30% damage increase. (lv2 = 31%)

Discussion about the mechanics of the dmg calculation are can found in the appendix.

This thread is aim to reveal a well-guarded secret on the true power of artillery (credits to 1v1逆天  from duowan)


While the buff of Magical Breeze is still active, cast a physical skill.
When the buff expires, the physical skills which is still being cast, will be forced to have 100% skill amp (no additional dmg).

For example, assume you cast magical breeze, and when the buff duration is left with 3 sec, you cast arrow rain

Arrow Rain (original): ( 38%+208 ) x 43
Final Rain: 100% x 43

Note:
* final rain is the name given arrow rain boosted through such trick.
* arrow rain shoot 43 arrows, the arrows deals 2 type dmg: touch dmg = 0.1 x board dmg, explosive dmg = 0.9 x board dmg ]


You will see roughly a 2.4 times increase of damage by doing Final Rain.  

A few notes on the characteristic of this trick:
* dmg is calculated based on phy attack
* dmg can be boost further by the bow mastery passive (8%)
* dmg can be boost through skill heraldry (20%)
* dmg cannot be boost through skill lvl, meaning lvl1 arrow rain and lvl 7 arrow rain similarly have 100% amp, once this trick is applied
* dmg cannot be boost through lvling of magical freeze, meaning lvl1 and lv2 magical breeze makes no difference.

Comparison of Final Rain with other top lv40 ultimate

Normal arrow rain: 38%+8% , assume only 80 hits (40xboard dmg), total dmg = 1840% ; cd 45sec.
Final Rain: 100%+8%, assume only 80 hits (40x board dmg), total dmg 4320%; cd 45sec

[ additional 8% is from bow mastery ]

Flame Vortex of elemental lord: 4000%; cd 150sec
Infinity Edge of sword master: 6000% ; cd 125sec
Demolition of Engineer:  5600%; cd 125sec


You can also perform this trick to Aerial Chain Shot, however you will need to cast it when the buff duration is 1 sec left. Final Aerial Shot will do 4x damage as compared to normal aerial shot. The calculation is done similarly.








However, this use of magical freeze is actually a bug. It has been fixed in the most recent korean gigantes nest update. In other words, the life of Final Rain in cDN is only 1 month left =.=

Use it while you can ^_^

Appendix: How does magical breeze work?

The following info again is provided by 1v1逆天 from Duowan. Do note that the mechanism and effect described here might change with recent update.

Do physical skills become magical skill after casting Magical Breeze?
* After casting magical breeze, physical skill is ACTUALLY NOT converted to magical skill, as opposed to the skill description. ( not even sure if this is a bug =.= )
* Armor Break of paladin, which give additional damage to physical damage, still magnifies the physical skill of artillery with magical breeze. On the other hand, Mirror of force user give no mag damage boost for the physical skill of artillery with magical breeze.

Then what Magical Breeze actually does?

It calculate BOTH phy and mag skill damage according to the formula below:

Skill without damage inc heraldry

Damage =  ( Phy Attack + 1.3 * Mag Attack ) * ( Bow Mastery + Priest buff +Skill Amp) + Skill Add. Dmg.  -  Phy Attack * Skill Amp


Skill without 20% damage inc heraldry

Damage = [ ( Phy Attack + 1.3 * Mag Attack ) * ( Bow Mastery + Priest buff + Skill Amp) + Skill Add. Dmg.  -  Phy Attack * Skill Amp ] * (1+15.38%)

[ other multiplier such as crit and defence dmg reduction are not applied in the above equation ]

Lets use an example to demonstrate the calculation:

Assume
Phy attack = 5000
Mag attack = 4000
Arrow Rain lv7 : 38%+208

Without any buff, bow master or magical breeze, arrow rain lv7 deal:
Damage = 5000 * 0.38 + 208 = 2108

Will physical attack affect the phy/mag skill dmg under magical breeze?

The answer is yes, provided that you have bow mastery and/or priest buff.

For a comparison,

Magical breeze only:
Damage = (5000+1.3*4000) * 0.38+208 - 5000*0.38 = 1.3*4000*0.38+208 = 2184

Note that the raw physical attack (bold) get cancel out in the calculation process. In other words, without the bow mastery and/or priest buff, magical breeze calculate skill damage based on MAG ATTACK ONLY and give additional 30% damage increase to it.

Also note that because the low mag. attack, the effective damage increase is only from 2108 to 2184 (1%).

Effect of Bow Mastery Passive

Bow mastery: 8%

Damage with bow mastery, without magical breeze
Damage = 5000 * (0.08+0.38 )+208 = 2508

Now with magical breeze and bow mastery
Damage = (5000+1.3*4000) * (0.08+0.38)+208 - 5000*0.38 = 3000

Damage increase significantly from 2508 to 3000 (20%) !

Effect of Bow Mastery Passive & Priest Buff

Bow mastery: 8%
Priest Buff : 22%

Damage with bow mastery and priest buff, without magical breeze
Damage = 5000 * (0.08+0.22+0.38 )+208 = 3608

Now with magical breeze and bow master + priest buff
Damage = (5000+1.3*4000) * (0.08+0.22+0.38)+208 - 5000*0.38 = 5244

Damage increase tremendously from 3608 to 5244 (45%) !


Note that PART of the raw phy attack (bold) get cancel out too. However, part of the physical attack, specifically the part which are boosted by priest buff and/or bow mastery passive, are included in the damage calculation. Mercenary buff also is applied in the same way but due to the complexity, it will not be shown here.

Important note regarding this example:
The dmg % increase will definitely vary with different skills. Arrow rain has small skill amp% and therefore will show amazing damage increase under priest buff and bow mastery passive. Skills with higher skill amp % will definitely show lower effective damage increase.


Reference:
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-26859673-1-1.html
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-26857134-1-6.html
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-21620458-1-1.html
http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-23390436-1-1.html
http://dn.duowan.com/1112/187801508092.html


[ The post was edited by chaose5 at Feb 17, 2012 12:51 pm ]

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Feb 16, 2012 1:06 am
thank for sharing^^

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    Feb 16, 2012 1:27 am
    nerfing one of the weakest classes in the game? good job eyedentity, keep it up.

    thanks for the info, it was interesting but quite sad.


    oh, and wait, does it mean if i'll cast physical ulti(or any other skill with 100%+amp) when magic breeze almost expired so it'll force skill to become 100% amp... it's going to do less damage than it normally would?

    Feb 16, 2012 1:37 am
    Reply 2#  perfecti

    apparently yes =.=

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    Feb 16, 2012 1:55 am
    Reply 2#  perfecti

    Calm down, it's not even a nerf, it's a bug.
    -All we can do now is wait for bm transformation <3 ahah. I really want it too, but we got to be patient.

    -I sure will miss it, it explains how I randomly started doing damage off the charts.

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    Feb 16, 2012 1:55 am
    So this is why Yuhan was doing so much damage...

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    Feb 16, 2012 2:18 am
    Reply 4#  PokeKai

    believe it or not, i'm actually pretty calm atm.

    it's just eyedentity doesn't seem to understand that balance should be done in batches, so no one would feel left out. first it was merc and ele who was pretty shitty for a long time, and now bm and acro(though to much lesser extent) are left that way(i know about smasher situation, but i still think she's better than bm cause you'll get time accel either way and that's basically the only thing i want from fu in my pt).

    i hope transform is going to come soon = =

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      Feb 16, 2012 2:55 am
      Yeah don't worry, I know how you feel. The wait has been so long, i really want to see BM and smasher at the top of the list.

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      Feb 16, 2012 3:34 am
      Quote: Originally Posted by perfecti at Feb 16, 2012 2:18 am
      Reply 4#  PokeKai

      believe it or not, i'm actually pretty calm atm.

      it's just eyedentity doesn't seem to understand that balance should be done in batches, so no one would feel left out. first it was merc and ele who was pretty shitty for a long time, and now bm and acro(though to much lesser extent) are left that way(i know about smasher situation, but i still think she's better than bm cause you'll get time accel either way and that's basically the only thing i want from fu in my pt).

      i hope transform is going to come soon = =     
      Sure, and it will come.
      But this was a bug, and it's right that it has been fixed, as hopefully all the other bugs will be.

      Do you really want your character to be considered good only because of a bug?

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      Feb 16, 2012 4:38 am
      Reply 8#  Tarkel

      sure i want all and every bug to get fixed, it's just taking that away from already weak class is only adding insult to injury.

      btw, bm still has that bug with charge shot making it do like 10-20% of it's regular damage(i'm getting 10k crits on the same enemies i'm doing 130k crits with next shot). i wonder when they're going to fix that..

      Feb 16, 2012 4:47 am
      Quote: Originally Posted by perfecti at Feb 16, 2012 4:38 am
      Reply 8#  Tarkel

      sure i want all and every bug to get fixed, it's just taking that away from already weak class is only adding insult to injury.

      btw, bm still has that bug with charge shot making it do like 10-20% of it's regular damage(i'm getting 10k crits on the same enemies i'm doing 130k crits with next shot). i wonder when they're going to fix that..     
      If they know about it they will fix it.

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      Feb 16, 2012 5:49 pm
      Such an interesting read, to bad we won't see this on NA and by the time I get my artillery on cDN this bug will probably be fixed :( . Reminds me of the Proc bugs we were happening in DN NA though it made BM strong but when it was fixed they were completely weak again :(.

      Anyway Chaose I've read the thread about calculating Magical Breeze's damage through google translate but the formula presented at the end is in Chinese which I can't read at all ;/ Is there anyway you can post the formula in English so I can Maybe share it with the aspiring Artilleries from NA? Or just for my own knowledge as well?

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        Feb 16, 2012 10:35 pm
        Reply 11#  Lyricismz

        Due to popular request, i shall describe how magical breeze works, see Appendix

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        Feb 17, 2012 12:36 am
        Damn that's cool.  I don't mind bugs like this where it takes a bit of skill to utilize.

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        Feb 17, 2012 11:49 am
        Thank you so much :)

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        Feb 17, 2012 8:06 pm
        So after reading all of the info in the appendix, would getting Pinpoint Shot (Sniper ulti) as a second ulti for use under Magical Breeze be a good or bad idea?

        Feb 17, 2012 9:52 pm
        Reply 15#  Vinnio

        Pinpoint shot - 104% per arrow (total of 22 arrows)

        Assume 5000 phy and 4000 mag again, ignore crit and def multiplier,

        Total dmg, no magical breeze, with bow mastery and priest buff
        Dmg = 5000 * (1.04+0.08+0.22) =6700 per arrow
        Full dmg = 22 * 6700= 147 400

        Total dmg, with magical breeze, with bow mastery, and priest buff
        Dmg = (5000+1.3*4000) * (1.04+0.08+0.22) - 1.04*5000 =8468 per arrow
        Full dmg = 22 * 8468= 186296

        Dmg increase by magical breeze is 26%

        Comparing with the mag. ulti,

        Total dmg with magical breeze , with bow mastery and priest buff
        Dmg = (5000 + 1.3 * 4000 ) * (14.4 +0.08+0.22) - 1.04* 5000 = 144 740

        It is actually much inferior to the physical ultimate, in terms of total dmg.

        However, since i didn't measure the casting time of it, so i can't comment on the dps.

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          Feb 18, 2012 12:47 pm
          Reply 16#  chaose5

          I see. Thanks for doing the calculations. :)

          Feb 21, 2012 11:34 am
          So wait... Are you saying that this proves a Sniper is overall better than Artillery in PVE now? If that's the case I'm so screwed. I invested a lot of real $$ To get the Christmas set set with all int for my Artillery. And now I might have to remake but I heard its a pain hitting lvl 40 and I'm barely over 32.

          And the reason I picked Artillery over Sniper is better AOE and I find them overall more fun to use... =/

          Feb 21, 2012 11:43 am
          Reply 18#  allsanotion

          just fyi, to be efficient artillery requires a lot more investments than a mere fashion set..
          though i'd say if you wanted to go artillery - go for it, bm should get a class transform somewhere down the road, and we'd never guess what devs have prepared for us.
          maybe artillery will become the best class in the game =|

           

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