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oops, i meant to reply to pokekai's post. lol

agreed, just that overgeneralizing the issue and saying it was "Freedom that created the problem" is rather annoying. :P

Reply 20#  lilimeow

If you can read correctly, I didn't mention the name because that person I'm referring to did this on a separate forum.

1) Reading comprehension really helps here guys.
2) Quote "saying it was "Freedom that created the problem" is rather annoying. :P"

-You are rather annoying for thinking you know what happened.

If people don't know the full 100% the story, please don't butt in. Even one of the freedom forum moderators went on our forums to apologize for what that "freedom member" did.

Reply 19#  MechaBomber

Agreed, our guild has been trying to get past this issue. As we stated before, we need to give Chryses time and let this issue pass.

1) However, people, including some Freedom members, continually make remarks that TL members are selfish. Should we sit here and let people tarnish an innocent guild?

We haven't even spoken of this issue for nearly 2 weeks, now all the sudden people flame? Please, get the facts straight before calling someone out.

Reply 21#  PokeKai

theres nothing to comprehend. all i see is you bitching and using the freedom name for something one person did.

explain where in my post does it imply i know entirely what happened? like you said, reading comprehension helps a lot here.

also, "get facts straight"? please name any misconception in my posts. besides, i wasnt even saying anything regarding the chryse issue.  LOL

Reply 23#  lilimeow

Quote: "that one person does not represent freedom"

1) Yes, that one person does not represent the entire guild Freedom. However, shouldn't the members of Freedom know that as well? So why do I see Freedom members making insults that we are selfish?

Quote: bitching and using the freedom name for something one person did.

2) If you can use that argument about not blaming the Freedom guild because of what 1 person did, then why are people blaming the entire TheLoosers guild for one person to withhold the patch? The guild did not decide it, but the creator of it.

-Yeah, you are correct, I am bitching, but that's because someone is bitching at us? Or do you want to tell me that you will stand there while someone bitches at you in real life? No, I didn't think so.

Quote: i wasnt even saying anything regarding the chryse issue.  LOL

3) Even if you did not directly state that, aren't you just adding oil to fire? My post was to clarify things. Which is why I said people shouldn't butt in or say things like that if they don't know the story 100%

Quote: explain where in my post does it imply i know entirely what happened?


4) That's what I'm talking about. You DON'T know entirely what happened, which is why I stated people shouldn't say anything or butt in if they DON'T know 100% of the story.

Why are you guys still going all out on this, lol. if Chryses wants to share, we'll be glad to use it. but he doesnt wanna share it now, respect that. Anyway thanks corva and the rest for working on this.

Reply 25#  ★ kire

Exactly. Just respect Chryses decision.

I don't understand why some of your members still make comments like that. Which is why I had to step in. This guild was built by Elodie and reputation means a lot to her. For her to see these types of comments, especially from freedom members is very disappointing.

Reply 24#  PokeKai

1. because theyre idiots.

2. so a few dumbasses in our guild offended you. isnt it wiser to not do the same thing and stoop to their level? redirect your bitching towards those specific people, not towards the whole guild. not once did i say anything against the loosers, only towards you.

3. no, not really. i was defending the guild name. your overuse of "Freedom started the problem," rather than "a few people from freedom" can be misleading to people who are looking to join the guild in the future. i know god damn well what that one person did was idiotic and uncalled for, but to retaliate in a manner that would affect a large, undeserving population is no better.

4. hence why i didnt address any of the that bs? read above.

kirei, i do respect that. im simply responding to pokekai's posts.

I somehow dislike how things are going now , like separating "Freedom Members" , "TheLoosers Members" , It should just be simple like "cDN english speaking players" , Both guild has subforums under mmosite. Correct me if im wrong, if we're identifying everyone by their guilds, Why would PokeKai wanna share his awesome selena's skill build,  LightsEndX sharing the korea voice pack on the Freedom forum and not on TheLoosers subforum itself? No point arguing or discussing about the english patch issue anymore. It happened 2weeks ago.

Anyway, Just my 2cents. When Chryses first shared his english patch over the internet, He should somehow know something like this will happen, and im pretty sure it happened several times already. But we'll appreciate that he once shared it with us.
Peace

Reply 27#  lilimeow
Quote:
i was defending the guild name
I'm also defending my guild name, so you can speak for Freedom, but I can't speak for TL?

-What people say about TL is also misleading, but people do so anyways. So because of those people, I must clarify that the person was in fact from Freedom. Did you want me to rewrite it and say "A Freedom member" did do this? Since your issue here is about just those words.

-If I had said "A Freedom member" did this, then those members who are constantly insulting us will act like "Oh, well it's just that member that did it, not our guild. So I can continue to call them this and that". They should know that they are in that guild.

-If you had not noticed, I did say "what one of the freedom members did" twice early on in the post.

i understand where youre coming fom, but like i said, those people are idiots. no reason to retaliate in the same manner. im pretty sure youre level headed enough to know whats right from wrong.

No retaliation, but clarification for those who don't know.

Reply 31#  PokeKai

lots of contradictions in your posts.

you say because freedom members did certain things, you need to do the same. seems like retaliation to me.

Reply 32#  lilimeow

What you are referring to is this:

1) Because Freedom member did this, Chryses withheld his patch. It was not I, nor the guild doing this because of that.

2) What I am doing now, is clarifying that issue and telling people they should respect that decision. Aren't you doing just that? Saying that I am retaliating when I am simply clarifying. It would be retaliation if I withheld the patch and saying it, but I was not the one who withheld it.

Reply 33#  PokeKai

1. what im referring to is, what was the purpose for you to bring up the guild name collectively other than to demean it? AGAIN, im not saying anything about chryses, nor his decision to withhold the english patch. its YOU, and YOU alone. is that clear? lol

2. we are on the same page regarding the decision to withhold the english patch. i know you and chryses are two different people.

Uhh, all of your remarks regarding you know what is out of topic already, its not worth the argument, but just shut the F**K up and enjoy the released english patch and dont mention my name anymore, the english patch isn't my creation, i take credit from apqoo who made a starters guide for making an english patch, I just made it my own by having my own way of merging/translating with the help from my guildmates and a couple of freedom members aswell, and yeah I made them from scratch. Stop this madness already, I feel bad that I blocked my work with just my friends, stop insulting me, my guild, i have my reasons, bombarding me and provoking me with those statements will just make things worse, if you don't have anything nice to say, cut your finger and stop typing. But then again this is an online community tons of bastards an immature pricks, my dear frank is only speaking as a friend on my behalf though I thank you for trying to let these idiots understand, you can't change their minds, if for some reason you are offended with my post, then you deserve it.

Have Fun. and be on topic, a.k.a. v105 English patch of Corvaxseek

im not insulting you bro or feel insulted. i cant be any more clear than, yes, i have nothing against your decisions.

Reply 34#  lilimeow

-It's not to demean it, but to clarify.

Here's the difference in what people say:
1) People insult TL by calling them selfish. That is UNTRUE.

Here's what the difference in what I say:
2) Something that one of the freedom member did etc etc. That is TRUE.

-So to correct what is untrue that is said about my guild, I must speak the truth. That is CLARIFICATION my dear. Not demeanor.

Reply 37#  PokeKai

1. yes
2. you said, "freedom created the problem"... huge difference in context. bolded at that.

Go refer to previous post 29 as I have already answered that. If you don't mind going in circles, that is fine with me.