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[TL] xKami's Final Damage Elord Build (RETIRED)

Jan 26, 2012 12:45 am
@PokeKai

In ur Fire Elestra do u need to have 18k crit to make ice sword and ice spear to crit? or do u only need the freeze debuff and ice resist of ice spear and ice sword to amplify more damage and to prolong the freeze debuff?

sory for the noob questions please bear w/ me :)

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Jan 26, 2012 4:58 am
Reply 80#  xMcQueen

No problem, ask all the questions you need.

-If you want freezing sword and ice spear to crit, you do need 18k crit, but that's not what this build is for. This build is to have your fire skills crit, but to use freezing sword for mob control and ice spear for the damage boost.Technically, i'm not exactly an Elestra. This build is steered towards Fire Elemental Lord. The only use of the ice skills 1) Freezing sword is: AOE control + slow 2) Glacial Freeze: Freeze + damage boost 3) Ice barrier- Damage reduction + freeze 4) Icicle injection: Damage boost.

Then, if you  notice, all the other skills are fire based which are my actual damage dealing skills. They are affected by hell fire so you don't necessarily need the 18k crit.

-You don't need to stack ice resist to make the freeze duration longer, it's long enough for you to make use of the damage amp.

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    Jan 26, 2012 7:04 am
    @PokeKai

    Thank you!  now i know what to do to my skills :)

    Jan 27, 2012 4:59 am
    can you upload a video pvping in ladder mode?

    Jan 27, 2012 6:39 am
    Reply 83#  punza



    This merc was ranked 2100 with PVP suffixes, so it wasn't quite easy.
    -You can see the importance of the freezing sword EX range+slow. Without that, it'd be really tough to catch your opponent or try to land a combo with those who really know how to PVP. Of course, those who have ICE shield, that's a bit different.


    [ The post was edited by PokeKai at Jan 28, 2012 3:27 pm ]

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    Jan 27, 2012 10:54 pm
    What prefix is good in lvl 40 armors and weps is this good?

    armor- 4 parts hp prefix and 1 mana prefix for helm or 5 hp prefix or intellect?

    weps- 2x intellect or is fire prefix good for main and intellect for staff?

    Jan 28, 2012 1:19 am
    Reply 85#  xMcQueen

    Weapon:
    For me, it's down between 4 choices (vigor, fire, water, intelligence) depending on your job and skill build:

    1) I would choose between a vigor or intelligence staff. Vigor will allow you to possibly have permanent shields. Intelligence on the other hand, allows you to reduce your enemies elemental resist (indirectly boosting your own damage)

    2) If you are a Saleana and have mainly fire skills I'd definitely choose fire orb (it's basically like magic, but you can deal 20% ish more with this) If you are a hybrid Saleana, then I'd choose intelligence.

    3) If you are an Elestra and have mainly ice skills, I'd definitely choose ice orb for the same reasons. If you are a hybrid Elestra, probably intelligence orb.


    Armors:

    I think it's best to make everything life. The exception would be the helmet since you can't make life, I chose mana for mine, but if you have a vigor staff, it's not necessary so go with what you'd like.

    -When taking damage with your shields on, your life armor will help you recover what you have just lost the majority of time. So it is very useful. Intelligence isn't so great...100-200 damage sacrifice for efficient self healing is worth it. Elemental lords are already a DPS class, so no need to worry that much about damage.

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      Jan 28, 2012 2:59 pm
      Reply 86#  PokeKai

      im Fire type like you im just following ur build but my flame spark is at lvl 9 and ignite is in lvl 1. Thanks Again! :)

      Jan 29, 2012 1:29 am
      In the pvp video, you have vigor staff right?

      Jan 29, 2012 1:37 am
      Reply 88#  punza

      Yes, that helped me win the match actually, without that I would've lost much earlier in the match.

      Thanks to Kirei for testing/informing about vigor staff ^_^.

      I think vigor is a must get for elords. It surpasses INT/MAG by far. Your damage is only increased by so little (or much, however you think of it).

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      Jan 30, 2012 8:50 am
      why you can learn the ice barrier without learning the ice ulti(frozen fury)? i know its a pre req. of ice barrier, please enlighten me thanks

      Jan 30, 2012 6:21 pm
      hi what are the stats of your cash equips thanks

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        Jan 30, 2012 7:10 pm
        hi pokekai, im really a huge fan of yours, very good build,
        im a Fire EL in Dragon nest SEA server and have 800FD and 36%FIRE 4200+CRIT at our present 40cap.. my only prob is when 50cap arrives, what should i do to achieve atlest 9k to 10k crit not using heraldy to boos my crit coz im investing me heralds for FD options thanks ALOT... what are the stats of your cash equips can find it in dragon armory...
        thanks

        sincely yours(hekhek);
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        Jan 30, 2012 7:42 pm
        Reply 90#  49.*.*.173

        In CNDN we can learn two Ultimates. I always use Flame Vortex, however, to learn ice barrier and icicle spear, I learned Blizzard as well.

        -Sometimes I refer my Fire Elestra build a "fake elestra" build because All I have is Freezing sword, barrier, icicle spear, and EVERYTHING else is dumped into the fire skills.

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        Jan 30, 2012 7:43 pm
        Reply 91#  222.*.*.76

        Um I will take screen shots later this week for you, I am really busy at the moment. But it is like any other B grade costume if you play CNDN, for one exception, the staff adds +1 Glacial spike.

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        Jan 30, 2012 7:59 pm
        Reply 92#  222.*.*.78

        I need to know a few things first before I can give an accurate answer:
        1) Does your version of DN have 3 heraldry slot expansion?
        2) Are you trying to achieve 1300 FD and maintain the 11k crit?

        -If your version does have the 3 heraldry expansion slot, then you don't necessarily need the 2x apocalypse accessory set and still achieve 1300 FD. With that being said, you can equip agility necklace, earrings, and whatever rings you want.  Using a 50A agility necklace will probably give you 1-2k crit.

        -If your version does NOT have the expansion, then you will definitely need both the 2x apocalypse accessory set to achieve 1300 FD. Also, you must use archbishop 50A set 7/7 if you haven't already figured that out (gives 420 FD total)

        SO, what are other ways to boost your critical?

        1) When you change your current 40 gear to 50A, your crit will already increase by the nature of the Archbishop set about 1-2k

        2) Suffix II: This will give a small additional bonus to all armor and weapon stats, so you will get a slight increase in everything basically. (I'm not sure if your version will have it right away once the level cap is released)

        3) Cash costume, if crit is still an issue and you cannot maintain the 11k crit, buy a costume that gives AGI. Equip both cash rings with agility too. You don't have to get an INT costume because your FD will cover way more than the loss damage, also, there is nothing to cover for your crit. So it is a smart choice to get the costume with agility if you need it.

        4) Tattoo: This is also a cash equipment and the one I have equiped grants me 5% critical, 100 FD, and 200 magic attack.

        5) Potential: You can always try to get weapon magic+crit potentials (however, this to be my last option because I would prefer fire elemental attack over these two)

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        Jan 30, 2012 10:42 pm
        [quote]Quote: Originally Posted by [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/member/info/2592327/2]PokeKai[/url] at Jan 30, 2012 7:42 pm
        [b]Reply [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20111224/TL_xKamis_SaleanaFire_Elestra_1300_Final_Damage_build-4ef6a94b76a8a6213-5.html#p4f26ca5d2bde79]90#[/url] [i]49.*.*.173[/i][/b] [br] [br]In CNDN we can learn two Ultimates. I always use Flame Vortex, however, to learn ice barrier and icicle spear, I learned Blizzard as well.

        -Sometimes I refer my Fire Elestra build a "fake elestra" build because All I have is Freezing sword, barrier, icicle spear, and EVERYTHING else is dumped into the fire skills. [url=http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/217/20111224/TL_xKamis_SaleanaFire_Elestra_1300_Final_Damage_build-4ef6a94b76a8a6213-5.html#p4f276309a64118][STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST]images/back.gif[/STB_STATIC_IMAGE_HOST][/url][/quote]
        can you learn the ice ulti without learning na ice shield and other pre req.?

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          Jan 31, 2012 12:59 am
          Reply 96#  49.*.*.173

          Yes, as you can see in my Fire-Elestra build, I don't have anything but freezing sword prior to Blizzard.

          Once you learn Flame Vortex (which requires learning all the prerequisite fire skills), you can learn Blizzard and vice-versa (learning Blizzard which requires learning all the ice skills and then you can learn Flame Vortex without any fire skills before it)

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          Feb 1, 2012 3:28 am
          is the skill accessories can be activate in normal pvp? item off

          Feb 1, 2012 5:12 am
          Reply 98#  49.*.*.173

          I don't know 100%, but I have heard that they do work in unbalanced PVP.

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