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A Song of Ice and Fire - Hybrid All-purpose Elestra Build

Oct 16, 2011 1:57 am
In the past, I had built my Elestra with only Ice skills, and only a lv 1 Fireball, because I thought that I should stack as much slow and -ice resist as possible, both in PVP and PVE. But after getting my butt kicked in my tempest by a (mere) 3 spike-rank elestra, but who I consider to be the best one in our server, I went to make radical changes in my build. I'm very pleased with what I have come up with, and I really think that other people should know about it too:



Now I think that a lot of things have to be explained, since many things are pretty much unusual:

Why minimum level glacial spike: Because I think that the damage is bad. It's true that if you freeze your target in PVE you can get a higher damage output, but it's unreliable and that's why you have your lv 50 skill anyway. I rather pump shockwave instead.

Why minimum level poison: Because I think that the damage is bad, and because I have no SP. Lv 1 Poison is enough to keep the opponent down in PVP, so I rather pump shockwave instead.

Why pump shockwave: Because it's pretty darn good in PVP. Max level (lv 13) does 5k+ damage, 8k if it crits. Level 8 is about ~3k, not bad either.

Why MP Recovery and MP Return: As my very pro, can-solo-bishop-hell friend Saurus accurately points out in his guide, if you try to solo long nests, your MP won't last long.

Why not Lv 7 inferno: Because SP is  limited.

Why Lv 9 Frost Wind: Because the slow that your opponents gets when they get touched by it makes them regret they ever fought you in the first place.

Why Lv 10 Glacier wave: Because it's ridiculously hard to break out of it in PVP, and it's very sturdy in PVE, allowing you to use 2 or even 3 spells while the target is frozen (they receive more damage while frozen) and thus, increasing your damage output.

Why Lv 10 Firebird: Because it HURTS. It's just regular skill in PVE, but in PVP it crits for 6k+ each bird if the target is frozen by glacier wave, and yeah, it DOES NOT break the ice, so you can follow up with another spell of your choice (fireball, freezing sw, fraction, etc).

Why Ignition: I know that some people would be calling me noob just by this choice (the best part hasn't come yet), but ignition is great. The casting time is long and it's easy to cancel, but it's 9k damage in PVP, and people usually don't see it coming. However the main purpose of this skill is to clear mobs in PVE. Firewall -> Ignition is a great combination to clear mobs. I recommend everyone to try it, it's great :)

Why duo ulti: Because they're good in different situations. The fire ulti can be canceled and has damage reduction. The ice ulti doesn't have any of that. So in dangerous situations, you're safer with the fire ulti, and it also causes an imba burn that can be ignited after a few seconds. Flexibility is the key here; use each ulti in the proper situation.

For stat heraldries, I'd go with the usual Intelligence, Magic Attack, Agility, Critical, Final Damage, HP, Vitality and Critical Resist.

For Skill heraldries, I got Freezing Sword +20%Damage, Fire Bird +20%Damage, Glacier Wave +20% Duration, and Slap Attack +50% Speed.

Wait, WHAT? SLAP ATTACK? HAHAHA NOOB.

That's what the guy in this video said:

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/WrUmO5SCiFk/

But after he got slapped, he wasn't laughing anymore.


Overall, it's a fun, tested build that works well for anything in the game.
P.S. The Elestra in the video is me. The quality is bad because my laptop is bad , and I have to play in low graphics for the game to be decently smooth. If I turn on video recording it's even worse; so cut me some slack, I'm poor :P

Questions, comments and criticism are welcome!

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Oct 16, 2011 2:27 am
nice slapping!

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    Oct 16, 2011 5:12 am
    LOL mighty the build is too good I dont think i can touch you on my seleana><
    btw have you tried using a puppet?

    Oct 16, 2011 5:18 am
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:58 pm
    Reply 2#  kentasan

    I tried using a puppet, but unlike the book, it doesn't flinch, so it has no practical use (for pvp at least) :)

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    Oct 16, 2011 10:02 pm
    Lol pro pvp video, i guess i will start using a book for pvp and try what you did in the video. :D

    Oct 17, 2011 1:41 am
    Greetings from china almighty head
    why isnt shockwave 13 make it 13 K OK ? OK?
    BTW CHINA SMELLS
    AND U CAN WALL JUGGLE WITH PUPPET ILL SHOW YOU WHEN IM BACK, ITS LIKE 500 TIMES EASIER BUT IT LOOKS NOT AS PRO
    PS. WHO AM I? CAN YOU GUESS
    start with f

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      Oct 17, 2011 5:47 am
      Reply 6#  210.*.*.242


      Freezing you can't even wall juggle properly with a book . I'd still like you to show me though.

      In any case, I'd choose book anyway, because of the flinching. What I mean by that is that if you slap someone with a book twice, they fall down. If you do that with a puppet, they stay standing regardless of how many times you do it; so book ftw :-)

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      Oct 17, 2011 6:30 am
      oh you poo
      I JUST THINK THAT ACTUAL DMG>SLAPPING AGAINST A WALL OK OK DONT JUDGE
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      Oct 19, 2011 2:00 pm
      Hi, I m chiri from DN NA :P
      I m only lv 32 because it is the cap right now. But I am falling in love with you and freezing's elestra build. I think it is a big revolution.
      However, as much as I love pvp (solo and group), I do enjoy the PvE content as well. So I have some questions/thought regard the build to make it both pvp and pve friendly. I will very much appreciate any thought from anyone :D

      I will max ice stab because I think it is a good dps skills.

      Max frost wind: The slow at lv 9 is just ridiculous. I think it can be helpful in pve too. But i have to lower chilling mist to do this. I love chilling mist so much but I don't know if there is gonna be a big different between lv 3 and lv 7. ( I have lv 1 as of 32 right now....)

      Ice Shield is max because I think with the change, it will be really helpful.

      I will not have enough point to max glacial wave. Do u guys think lv 8 is as good as lv 10. Or lv 10 is a must.

      I would love to have fire bird but there is not enough sp. Do you guys think fire bird is worth to lower ice stab and shield? Is the greatness of bird in pvp  able to compensate the lost of shields and ice stab dps in pve?

      Lastly, I will have inferno to 7 for the range...

      Here is my theory crafting build: http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=3&sc=17&tc=36&ll=50#bGbP2GgeKIEm3zsjlNJ

      I dont have any knowledge pass cap 32 and not very experience in pvp either. I just love theory crafting :D

      Thanks so much :)

      Ps: reading saurus post, i firgue a few thing out myself. But i still have a dilemma regard to fire bird :D


      [ The post was edited by Chiridori at Oct 20, 2011 11:01 am ]

      Oct 20, 2011 7:37 pm
      its a really gd build.

      i play on DN Sea and its such a shame the pvp there isnt smooth like CN. delays and all. will never be able to slap combo anyone.

      is this a pure pvp build or will it do as well as seleanas in pve?

      Oct 21, 2011 3:25 am
      0.0....a pvp build..uhmmm...btw fire bird and glacier wave = owned

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        Oct 21, 2011 9:05 am
        hmmm..
        i dont see why youd get Frost Wind past 1..
        lvl 8 shockwave is prolly the biggest waste though..
        your leveling it to add like 1.2k...
        put it somewhere else youll get alot better DPS.
        level 1 poison made me cry.
        and mana regen seemed like a waste to me, but thats just pref it could easily save you just as much as a skill.

        Oct 21, 2011 9:06 am
        you know if you take your orb/puppet off it acts as a book with no weapon.

        Oct 21, 2011 8:53 pm
        Reply 9#  Chiridori


        Firebird is mostly a PVP skill. However, with this new update, it can also work as an "igniter", that is, use it to burn targets so that the critfest can begin later :-) In any case, I tell you: Given equal skill levels, an elestra without firebird WILL lose to an elestra with firebird in 1v1 PVP. I experienced that first-hand, and that's another one of the reasons why I decided to revamp my previous extremely *cool* build (pun intended) xD

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        Oct 21, 2011 8:54 pm
        Reply 13#  muffinm4ster


        Yup, that's exactly what I do. I'm poor so I don't have extra slots to carry a book around...I just take the orb off and slap people :-D

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        Oct 21, 2011 8:59 pm
        Reply 10#  foistforz


        To summarize, this is a PVP build that doesn't suck in PVE. You can deal enormous amounts of damage, using both fire and ice skills, while kicking even the pro-est people's ass in PVP. If you use this build, your only limitation is your skill level. Unlike other PVP build's *cough* Freezing's *cough*, this one doesn't make you a dead weight in parties.
        P.S. Freezing you know I love you man.

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          Oct 21, 2011 9:05 pm
          Quote: Originally Posted by 24.*.*.235 at Oct 21, 2011 9:05 amhmmm..
          i dont see why youd get Frost Wind past 1..
          lvl 8 shockwave is prolly the biggest waste though..
          your leveling it to add like 1.2k...
          put it somewhere else youll get alot better DPS.
          level 1 poison made me cry.
          and mana regen seemed like a waste to me, but thats just pref it could easily save you just as much as a skill.     



          i dont see why youd get Frost Wind past 1..


          You sir, just made my day. That's the funniest thing I've heard today. Thanks a lot, I was bored with all the leveling up I've been doing recently.

          To be honest, I stopped reading after the first line. You're either a bad troll, or an NA/SEA guy with no experience. In any case, try this build out; I'm pretty sure that if you do, you'll be a follower too.

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          Oct 23, 2011 1:46 am

          Oct 23, 2011 2:17 am
          just want to ask

          what is the max % of ele lock we can achieve @ lv 32 (i'm playin at DN SEA) ?
          and, is it worth/possible to get flame road if u ignore the firebird and ingnition?


          thanks

          nice build anyway :D

          oh 1 more, can you post your vid while pvp ing, except the slapping one :D :D

           

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